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saintetienne

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Here maybe?


Maserati UK
275 Leigh Road
Slough
SL1 4HF


Would you beleive that Maserait UK headquarters is directly opposite a datacentre hosting some of the systems I help maintain. Maybe I could pop in for a chat, when I next drive myself to visit that site.


Maybe take in a sample of the offending item to show them .
 

saintetienne

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Looks like some Ferrari had/have the same issue;

http://www.clubscuderia.co.uk/forum...-MOndial-3.2-Rescue-and-repair-thread./page2&

I've joined and am waiting for my account to be activated so I can see them images, but it looks like the same happens with the Mondial...

Interesting to see what this shows , they could be using similar components.

I have just read further down the thread: "the N/S/F lower wishbone is split and has been for some time, its a known weak link that requires checking at annual service intervals" Doesn't sound good.
 
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conaero

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New Flanblocks turned up this AM, 2 per arm and they are both the same. Eurospares are much cheaper than MD on this one:

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Danny

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On the Dutch forum we have been discussing a solution for wishbones with haircracks (Boomerang's idea). Not meant as a permanent, long term solution but aimed at keeping our cars on the road, i.e. to be able to drive our cars without having to worry about fatal incidents as a result of a fully sheared wishbone.

The idea is simple: fabricate a round shaped, steel sleeve that covers the mounting part of the arm (the part with cracks or which may develop future cracks) and weld some flaps to this sleeve, both to the top and to the bottom of the arm and make sure that the flaps stick out a bit to the sides of the arms, so that to the sides of each flap a hole can be drilled in order to be able to bolt the flaps together (with the arm in between). Alternatively, the sleeve can be secured by drilling a hole through the arm itself but I don't know whether that would be a good idea from a safety perspective.

The steel sleeve + flaps would obviously need a coating or they would have to be fabricated from a material that is less prone to corrosion.

The sleeve itself could be as wide as the part of mounting hole that is "narrow". See arrows on the picture

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To illustrate the position of the flaps, see below picture (apologies for the crappy picture). The red dots indicate the position of the bolts which would have to keep the unit in place.

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Perhaps it would be an idea to manufacture/machine something out of 1 piece/sheet of (stainless) steel with a snug fit that could be pressed/slidden over the mounting hole from the side?
 

BennyD

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The problem with this approach is, if a car modified in this way suffers a failure then Maserati are in the clear and it weakens our case. If forums from several countries approach their safety regulators, such as VOSA, with cracked wishbones then the 'ground swell' will become irresistible and Maserati will have to sort it out. Home made modifications, whilst I appreciate the rationale, are probably not the way forward.
 

hodroyd

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I have to agree with that, we need this to be taken up as a safety issue by the authorities in different countries, they will then apply suitable pressure on Maserati worldwide to get something done about this safety issue..!!
 

highlander

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Agree with Benny here about this not working but because I am not sure the pressure which came from a split seam would be supported by that type of design, not because it would give maserati a back door since it would, if it worked, be a non permanent fix which could be removed with no sign being left...........where it would leave you at mot time I'm not so sure but think it would be unlikely to pass.
Welding may be the only temporary fix available which might work. I also doubt even welding would negate maserati's responsibilities if they are forced to recall since any recall would likely be to replace, not examine if needing replaced.
 

hodroyd

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A faulty design, or material should be simply replaced with an improved item that will not do the same, bring it on Maserati, or are you waiting for us to push this before you will react..??
 

boomerang

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Thank you Danny, for explaining and even picturing the idea.
But i have to agree with the other guys that this is not a real solution and not helping the case itself.
 

conaero

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The problem with this approach is, if a car modified in this way suffers a failure then Maserati are in the clear and it weakens our case. If forums from several countries approach their safety regulators, such as VOSA, with cracked wishbones then the 'ground swell' will become irresistible and Maserati will have to sort it out. Home made modifications, whilst I appreciate the rationale, are probably not the way forward.

Agreed!
 

2b1ask1

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Same bushes though Peter but yes look like steel to me, I was curious so checked it out...