US Civil War

rockits

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I don't watch the news and read news papers anymore and haven't done for many years. There is clearly often a lack of well researched facts also a clearly shaped/tailored opinion or facts.

I am not surprised about the US riots at all. In fact I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner or any worse. I do fear this is coming though.

The Fed and US govt have been destroying the US for the US people since 1971 and beyond. Now it is finally coming to a head and I don't see this huge economic and financial bubble not going pop this time. When this happens the natural reaction will be Civil War. I would be very fearful if I were a rich American or one of the parts of society benefitting from the current con and theft from the average American person.

It didn't happen overnight and has been happening for many many years. It will come to a head and just do not see a play out that it won't. The rich poor divide in real terms is now huge and 2021 could be the year the average US citizen will realise and want to do something about it.

The UK is not really too dissimilar just many people with generally more balanced thoughts. Also less gung hi and more reserved with their response. When the true economic pain hits after stimulus effects weaken and eventually stop also at some point do not work at all. I fear it creates a difficult situation and fear the potential scenarios on how it plays out.

This was all preventable and I don't believe politics is the cause. It is irrelevant who is in power as the global/US game plan is broadly the same. In fact Boden could make it is worse. They will likely print more and increase Stimulus. That will be better short.term then extend and excaserbate the pain. All free markets (well as free as they allowed to be!) need to self correct. Just let them correct and they will.

By interfering and not allowing free markets to be truly free and let them correct you are making the problem worse.
 

rossyl

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I'm looking forward to how many other countries America can export their FREEDOM, racism, double standards, non-secular-secular, poorly educated consumerist society around the world.
 

rossyl

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I don't watch the news and read news papers anymore and haven't done for many years. There is clearly often a lack of well researched facts also a clearly shaped/tailored opinion or facts.

I am not surprised about the US riots at all. In fact I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner or any worse. I do fear this is coming though.

The Fed and US govt have been destroying the US for the US people since 1971 and beyond. Now it is finally coming to a head and I don't see this huge economic and financial bubble not going pop this time. When this happens the natural reaction will be Civil War. I would be very fearful if I were a rich American or one of the parts of society benefitting from the current con and theft from the average American person.

It didn't happen overnight and has been happening for many many years. It will come to a head and just do not see a play out that it won't. The rich poor divide in real terms is now huge and 2021 could be the year the average US citizen will realise and want to do something about it.

The UK is not really too dissimilar just many people with generally more balanced thoughts. Also less gung hi and more reserved with their response. When the true economic pain hits after stimulus effects weaken and eventually stop also at some point do not work at all. I fear it creates a difficult situation and fear the potential scenarios on how it plays out.

This was all preventable and I don't believe politics is the cause. It is irrelevant who is in power as the global/US game plan is broadly the same. In fact Boden could make it is worse. They will likely print more and increase Stimulus. That will be better short.term then extend and excaserbate the pain. All free markets (well as free as they allowed to be!) need to self correct. Just let them correct and they will.

By interfering and not allowing free markets to be truly free and let them correct you are making the problem worse.
So if you don't watch TV news or read papers, how are you getting your information to make judgement on the above?
From Boden, as quoted. You can buy fancy middle class shirts, right wing agendas all from a new line called "indignant"
 

rockits

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I do watch a fair bit on YouTube but on the economy and finance.

Now and again I might see or read an odd article on the Internet but it won't be the same source all the time and will be very random/broad. Just I guess to get a broad/macro feel for what is going on with not much detail/depth.
 

midlifecrisis

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I do watch a fair bit on YouTube but on the economy and finance.

Now and again I might see or read an odd article on the Internet but it won't be the same source all the time and will be very random/broad. Just I guess to get a broad/macro feel for what is going on with not much detail/depth.
Clearly an accountable source. Just saying.

I agree with your sentiments above, American politics are hugely different from ours. Individual 'freedom', small government, the emphasis on tax dollars etc. the scary thing is amount of weapons including IED recovered from the riot. A 70 years old man was arrested on suspicion of possessing molotov cocktails.

Source: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/alabama-man-charged-possession-eleven-molotov-cocktails-found-near-protest-us-capitol
 

rossyl

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Oh god...Sportsmaserati is doing another Sportsmaserati. I thought this place was about cars.

By the way Maseratis are made by a workforce so Liberal they refuse to work and the whole factory shuts down in August.

Italy is "left wing" and near socialist by American standards.

Though, Italians treatment of Romany people is suitably awful for those who love the US system of 'have and have nots'
 

rockits

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I don't think many countries globally are too different economically in a broad macros sense. Many have bought into this long term debt based economy which is hugely flawed IMHO and destined for failure. It is just a question of when not if.

I'm afraid huge debt and buy today pay tomorrow is really a great place to start!
 

rockits

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Oh god...Sportsmaserati is doing another Sportsmaserati. I thought this place was about cars.

By the way Maseratis are made by a workforce so Liberal they refuse to work and the whole factory shuts down in August.

Italy is "left wing" and near socialist by American standards.

Though, Italians treatment of Romany people is suitably awful for those who love the US system of 'have and have nots'
We can talk about only Maserati's when you get one
 

CatmanV2

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Which confirms Twitter's action of suspension of Trump's account as justifiable.
There's another aspect that Twitter is a private company. You can say what you like, but free speech does not apply in my living room, if that analogy is not too stretched.

People seem to forget that about Twitter, Facebook and even this forum....

C
 

rockits

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I guess the take-home is......nothing is actually free in this world. However was it ever?
 

conaero

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Any chance any of our American members could post their take on issues? That way all nations can get an idea of the actual issues on the ground in America rather than some media spun BS