Brexit Deal

[breezer]

https://www.spiked-online.com/podca...or-what-the-political-elite-is-doing-treason/

Well worth listening to this if you value democracy.

 

[midlifecrisis]

Absolutely spot on orchestrated by those behind the scenes.

Those being his billionaire chums betting on UK recession etc

 

[Wanderer]

Never more truer....

So God was creating man. And his little assistant came up to him and he said: "Hey, we've got all these bodies left, but we're right out of brains, we're right out of hearts and we're right out of vocal chords." And God said: "Fûck it! Sew 'em up anyway. Smack smiles on the faces and make them talk out of their arses." And lo, God created the Tory Party.

 

[Wattie]

The new Liberal Hypocrites.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1173582033869778950

Ms Swinson would never have called for a referendum if she thought we were going to be allowed to return the wrong result.
Pathetic.

So we’ve had the Liberal Hypocrites position.

Now we get the Laughable Labour one.

Corbyn will hold a fresh vote if he became PM - offering a Labour-negotiated deal and Remain on the ballot paper. The deal will be based around Labour's four sticking points for a "sensible" deal with the EU - namely a new customs union, a close single market relationship, guarantees of workers' rights and promises on environmental protections.

So we’ve got a choice of Brino [Bremain) or Remain.
Feck off.
No deal not even an option.

Oh and hilariously, he will “pledge to carry out whatever the people decide, as a Labour prime minister."
That old chestnut.
The party will likely campaign on a “Remain” basis so they’ll vote against the deal they’ve just negotiated.
Sounds 100% “sensible” to me.

Once again they’re gonna negotiate a deal the Eu says is non-negotiable and I’m sure the Eu, knowing labour will campaign to “remain”, will give us a fabulous deal to leave. Wtf.

Mps are truly more stupid than we ever thought.

Still suspect the above 2 parties will revoke A50 when the extension is refused which has been the sordid little plan of remain MPs all along.

 

[Wattie]

Those being his billionaire chums betting on UK recession etc

I think I understand your argument.
All those “remain voting” billionaires that would lose money through respecting the Brexit vote wish to stop all those “leave voting” billionaires from making money through Brexit.

(Not withstanding the fact that billionaires will have investment teams that make money whether economies markets go up or down)

 

[midlifecrisis]

But if only one could influence the markets or investments to his advantage...

 

[philw696]

 

[2b1ask1]

They really are desperate to keep us!

 

[lifes2short]

collared again and bojo the clown bumbling along as usual

 

[Wanderer]

Nigel Farage walks into a pub and says, "I'll have a pint of beer, please." The barman pours a pint, then throws it all over Farage.

'What did you do that for?' says Farage.

'Because you're in a metaphor which illustrates the stupidity of asking for something, but not stipulating how you wanted it delivered.'

'OK then... I'll have a pint -- this time in a glass!' says Farage.

'You can't ask again!' said the barman.

'Why not?' snivelled Farage.

'Democracy.' says the barman.

 

[zagatoes30]

Nigel Farage walks into a pub and says, "I'll have a pint of beer, please." The barman pours a pint, then throws it all over Farage.

'What did you do that for?' says Farage.

'Because you're in a metaphor which illustrates the stupidity of asking for something, but not stipulating how you wanted it delivered.'

'OK then... I'll have a pint -- this time in a glass!' says Farage.

'You can't ask again!' said the barman.

'Why not?' snivelled Farage.

'Democracy.' says the barman.

But regardless of democracy who wouldn't want to throw a pint, or more, of anything over Farage

 

[JonW]

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This is genuinely interesting, and suggests there is a significant majority in the European Parliament to avoid at any costs a no deal Brexit. This is the same as the House of Commons, and (IMO) is good news for all...

This was on the condition the prolongation is justified and has a specific purpose, such as avoiding a “no-deal” departure, holding general elections or a referendum, revoking Article 50, or approving the Withdrawal Agreement.

I think as part of the same vote the members of the European Parliament have voted in support of there being no trade talks in the event of a no-deal Brexit unless Britain pays in full the £39 billion divorce bill, implemented the controversial Northern Ireland backstop and guaranteed the rights of EU citizens in the country.

Both of these significantly increase the likelihood of an extension, a referendum / general election, and the current view of the British public being sought...

Interesting times!

 

[Wattie]

This is genuinely interesting, and suggests there is a significant majority in the European Parliament to avoid at any costs a no deal Brexit. This is the same as the House of Commons, and (IMO) is good news for all...

This was on the condition the prolongation is justified and has a specific purpose, such as avoiding a “no-deal” departure, holding general elections or a referendum, revoking Article 50, or approving the Withdrawal Agreement.

I think as part of the same vote the members of the European Parliament have voted in support of there being no trade talks in the event of a no-deal Brexit unless Britain pays in full the £39 billion divorce bill, implemented the controversial Northern Ireland backstop and guaranteed the rights of EU citizens in the country.

Both of these significantly increase the likelihood of an extension, a referendum / general election, and the current view of the British public being sought...

Interesting times!

Seems rather odd that Macron/Finland has done this given the above.

EU ULTIMATUM: New Brexit plans need to be stated in 12 days or EU talks are over

BORIS JOHNSON has been warned he must give the EU new plans for Brexit by the end of the month or talks will be over. Finland’s Prime Minister, Antti Rinne, gave the ultimatum after a meeting with…

www.euroweeklynews.com

If Johnson truly wants a no deal he's just been given a way to get it....

Why shoot yourself in the foot....the Eu ultimatum renders the "no deal" legislation useless as it falls long after 12 days!

 

[Wanderer]

So what happens 'if' EU says enough is enough, and notwithstanding leaving with no deal is not an option according to parliament, is the UK just 'kicked out' or does it 'remain in' until the paperwork is done? Effectively extended anyway?

 

[rivarama]

What?

You've no idea mate, UK benefits system is no free ride, open your eyes. The social safety in the UK has been almost totally eroded away, just look, people sleeping on the streets, children stealing Ketchup sachets to eat, child poverty at record high levels, my friend Bila Ahmed (yes, a Muslim) every single night of the week feeds the homeless in Bolton Town Centre, because the UK can't/doesn't want to do it.

Foodbanks? Is that normal for the 5th richest economy in the World?

Genuine refugees get accommodation, usually the where no UK person would consider, and 35 quid a week in vouchers, not cash. These people are displaced through no fault of their own, do they not deserve help?

Going on benefits and having to cow tow to supercilious officials for a pittance is utterly demeaning, I would not wish it on anybody.

Or, maybe let them starve on streets, we do that anyway now.....

Amen!

 

[Wattie]

So what happens 'if' EU says enough is enough, and notwithstanding leaving with no deal is not an option according to parliament, is the UK just 'kicked out' or does it 'remain in' until the paperwork is done? Effectively extended anyway?

It’ll probably be turned into the perfect excuse for revoking A50 by our remain majority HOP.

 

[rivarama]

Back from Paris after meeting my son Andrew who had been in Europe training other employees of the firm he works for. A very enlightening conversation took place.
Andrew works for Premier Farnell (FTSE 250 company) in the accounts section. Farnell manufacture and sell electronic components world wide Mercedes, Toro Rosso, MClaren number in their customer base along with mainstream car manufacturers and aircraft people you may also have heard of Raspberry Pi. Farnell were recently taken over by Avnet a Nasdaq 500 company while Brexit was raging. Avnet are based in Phoenix and use aircraft to send their goods to customers. So we are not talking two bit companies here. Farnell figure highly in Avnet's annual figures due to the profitability achieved. In less than 2 years Avnet have set up and are now implementing systems to ensure their exports continue seamlessly to Europe during Brexit. One example is the leader of the team within Avnet has been given power for a pdf electronic signature to guarantee a contract is fulfilled. A new massive warehouse is almost complete on the outskirts of Leeds (head office UK) close to motorways airports etc. They are being proactive.
Their main competitor - Electro-components may be doing something similar. These are hard undeniable facts which to me shows that with a little ingenuity companies can prosper and it is not all doom and gloom as portrayed by some.

The major point you’re missing is all the costs to do that... only 1 person get richer: the government w duties, and everybody else loses due to incremental cost and potential arbitrage as some customers won’t want to buy from these firms due to higher prices.
So not all doom and gloom, just more friction - which businesses find ways around in general, especially the companies that can relocate elsewhere...

 

[Wattie]

It’ll probably be turned into the perfect excuse for revoking A50 by our remain majority HOP.

Which will be a dilemma for the Lib dems as if they revoke they will have nothing to stand for once again at the next election and they’ll be destined to the political wilderness.

 

[daverichardson]

The major point you’re missing is all the costs to do that... only 1 person get richer: the government w duties, and everybody else loses due to incremental cost and potential arbitrage as some customers won’t want to buy from these firms due to higher prices.
So not all doom and gloom, just more friction - which businesses find ways around in general, especially the companies that can relocate elsewhere...

Merely pointing out that businesses if prepared can survive and prosper contrary to what Remainers say

 

[Wattie]

We’ve sunk so low that even Luxembourg is taking the p1ss now.

We’ve sunk so low that even Finland is threatening us now.

UK has 11 days to submit new Brexit plan 'or it is over' - Finland PM
The UK needs to submit its new Brexit deal proposal to the EU by the end of September or it will be "over", according to Finland's prime minister.

Read in Sky News: https://apple.news/A0amAmTofTCOWUiMhGDRo_g

Finland is of course famous for ? And carries enormous weight on the international stage for ?. Finland is probably gutted that Iceland opened a chain of supermarkets before it did.
Just saying.
What have we become.

Ps. The Finnish finster cant even get his sentiment correct.....”or it will be over”.
Like that’s not what the majority voted for!
Leavers everywhere will be gutted.