Brexit Deal

conaero

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Mods - can this thread be closed before it rips the forum apart. The rhetoric is getting far to noisy.

I understand your concern but I find it all fascinating and closing it now when it’s nearly over the line and the interesting stuff is about to start would be wrong.

It will have to be closed at some point yes, please just all be respectful to each other.

If you do not wish to partake then don’t read it.

Is that a reasonable analysis?
 
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Catching up here.
It seems to me someone (may be Mogg) in the Boris camp with a deep knowledge of how Parliament functions has gone to Boris and said something like
'Boris if we do this................. it does not flout any thing in Parliamentary procedures etc'
Boris has said what a spiffing wheeze
BJ then implemented it and caught the Remainers off guard.
A backlash starts but it all goes ahead (prediction).
In the time allowed there are Budget speeches, Party Conference Queen's speech (note apostrophe), Friday off etc.
It is a master stroke whether you agree with it or not is different.
BJ has actually done something and so far I am with him as the alternative (Jeremy & Dianne) to me is not good
 

Wattie

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I’ll tell u what, This thread undeniably touches nerves but there is a very strong link to humour throughout it that I think everyone appreciates.
I dunno where u get all these from philw696 or whether that was your Guinness world record claim “most humorous Brexit posts in world” but they are amusing
 

rivarama

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That’s a good idea, we can then ignore those with the winning total and keep going as is.
How does that sort of democracy sound to you? (See below)
Well, how would your feel if instead of closing the thread, the threadxit vote led to closing down the whole forum, instead! Would you call this the cote of the people ?? LoL
 
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Well that has not happened though has it?
Although I do get the parallel
The only way to end all this now is to leave ASAP and get on with life
There will not be another Referendum on anything after this divisive issue
 

2b1ask1

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I just don't watch the news, haven't actively done so for many years, caught the first few minutes of Biased Broadcasting Cahoots' Propaganda at Ten this evening and well it just made me think. Remoaners are gearing up their 'Its a coup' rhetoric, clearly everything will be thrown at derailing leaving the EU in the next few weeks, having come to the cold realisation that a vote of no confidence won't work in time, would lead to Corbin to Vostok in charge (nobody wants that) and is all adding to the EU rubbing their hands thinking this may be their golden goose. Gina 'Yes Mi'Lud' was spouting on earlier about a legal challenge, I thought we had buried her. None of this rhetoric is helping in getting the EU to blink, if they think there is a remote possibility of Boris getting blocked.

Surely the logical thing to do would be to accept it is an inevitability that we exit no-deal and for the remoaners to press the EU to offer an alternative, force them to blink???
 

CatmanV2

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Was in interesting piece in the paper yesterday explaining that this might just be a masterful piece of politicking with a lot more than Brexit being played for....

C
 

MarkMas

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I just don't watch the news, haven't actively done so for many years, caught the first few minutes of Biased Broadcasting Cahoots' Propaganda at Ten this evening .....

Yes I was aggravated yesterday that the BBC News App was all about 'massive outrage at attempted coup', but buried 10 pages deep it said, "Parliament was expected to take a break or "recess" anyway from roughly 13 September - 8 October, so in theory this only loses MPs up to seven parliamentary days."
 

MarkMas

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This reminds me of one of my favourite jokes (a bit non-PC these days):

A Japanese man goes on holiday in Paris, and goes to convert his yen into euros.
He stops at a currency exchange near his hotel, and gets 425 euros in exchange for 50,000 yen.
The next week, he goes back to the currency exchange and exchanges another 50,000 yen to euros, but only gets 420 this time.
"Why only 420 euros today?" asks the man. "You gave 425 last week."
"Fluctuations." replies the cashier.
The Japanese man is furious, and yells, "Well, fluck you Europeans too!"
 

MarkMas

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Sum it all up for me....

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This is a perfect demonstration of three key Remainer myths:
  • that people who voted Leave simply got it wrong, rather than expressing a real opinion
  • that a huge number of people who voted Leave regret it and want to change their minds
  • that politicians and economists (as long as they are pro-EU) have the same kind of 'expertise' as doctors

The first is insulting, the second is almost certainly untrue, and the third is definitely untrue. I am confident that a second referendum (if asking the same question) would increase support for Leave.

If Remainers could grasp that these are myths, they would have some chance of formulating a strategy to deal with the Brexit situation.