Brexit Deal
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Wanderer
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Who's your TD? Mine's Leo Varadkar, wish he was running in the UK elections.
Having said that he's Fine Gael, formerly the Original (Old) IRA but I supposed that's allowed.
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Can you find a video of Corbyn making any anti-semetic remarks?
1 of the candidates has, on many, many occasions stood for the few, stood for the minorities, campaigned against racism etc.
The other has written many articles, and even published book, which dehumanised women to sexual objects, and points out people from different races based on their appearance alone throughout.
According to the UK media, one of them is an anti-semite, but the other isn't a racist or sexist.
All you have to do is try scraping back some of the **** the right wing focused media are shovelling and apply a little common sense.
Of course it's equally obvious why he hasn't apologised. He hasn't done anything. As soon as he apologises, the biased media will simply push that he IS an anti-semite, the apologise will basically justify the existence.
I don't particularly like Corbyn, but Boris is toxic.
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Even the wreath laying isn't as it suggested if you read the press, not linking anything, DYOR.
And the famous pic of Corbyn at a Paramilitary IRA funeral (actually that of Bobby Sands) isn't even Corbyn, it's some chap called James Gibney of something who had same scruffy hair and beard...
Of course there's no way I'd suggest JC is a paragon of virtue, of course he isn't, but he's as near as you'd get in this day and age, Jesus Christ just look at Johnson, Thatcher, Churchill, all responsible for terrible things. Bevin, Gaitskell, Hardie, on the hand...
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I thought this was an interesting watch
Oneball
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Not “very much due” according to this
FactCheck: did austerity kill 120,000 people?
That was the claim shared by Jeremy Corbyn — but is it true?
www.channel4.com
Oneball
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None were PM, you can argue it’s very easy to be virtuous if you’re not in charge.
Didn’t Bevan leave government in disgust at Gaitskell’s introduction of charges to the NHS?
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Wasn't Gaitskell dead before the end of the war? And the start of the NHS?
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No he wasn't!
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Not “very much due” according to this
FactCheck: did austerity kill 120,000 people?
That was the claim shared by Jeremy Corbyn — but is it true?
This is good, checking facts is the way forward, your source is still press though, why not go directly to the independent source instead?
Is austerity linked to 120,000 unnecessary deaths? - Full Fact
A report estimates 120,000 more people have died since 2010 than would have if the mortality rate from 2001-10 had stayed the same.
fullfact.org
I can equally do what channel 4 have done and state that the above says it’s “entirely plausible” which isn’t even all that out of context.
Oneball
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This is good, checking facts is the way forward, your source is still press though, why not go directly to the independent source instead?
Is austerity linked to 120,000 unnecessary deaths? - Full Fact
A report estimates 120,000 more people have died since 2010 than would have if the mortality rate from 2001-10 had stayed the same.
I can equally do what channel 4 have done and state that the above says it’s “entirely plausible” which isn’t even all that out of context.
What’s wrong with CH4? The source of the FullFact report is the BBC.
Wanderer
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This, is the single most indicting reason why we can continue as we are...This is good, checking facts is the way forward, your source is still press though, why not go directly to the independent source instead?
Is austerity linked to 120,000 unnecessary deaths? - Full Fact
A report estimates 120,000 more people have died since 2010 than would have if the mortality rate from 2001-10 had stayed the same.
I can equally do what channel 4 have done and state that the above says it’s “entirely plausible” which isn’t even all that out of context.
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I thought we might be due some tits, an they are some tits
Too big for my taste. I can't vote for them
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I think the election comes down to one thing and one thing only given the diabolical choice of current parties/ leaders/ the deteriorating situation.
If you want to leave the Eu - you will vote Tory and hold your nose.
If you wanna stay in the Eu - you will vote Lib Dem and hold your nose.
If you don't know wtf you want regarding the EU and wish even more farcical Eu negotiation and even more months of misery and nonsense from a party that cannot decide what it wants to do on a daily basis - you will vote Labour and hold your nose.
You will then pretend that somehow you have united the country and that all is well.
If you don't vote you will be responsible for determining the final result too - hold your nose and vote.
All other issues, NHS blah, blah, blah are irrelevant as everything promised, will never happen in the way its been stated. That is for 100% sure.
I've a gut feeling that Parliament will be hung and that is the worst of all possible worlds as it will render the UK in an even more atrocious position.
If you want to leave the Eu - you will vote Tory and hold your nose.
If you wanna stay in the Eu - you will vote Lib Dem and hold your nose.
If you don't know wtf you want regarding the EU and wish even more farcical Eu negotiation and even more months of misery and nonsense from a party that cannot decide what it wants to do on a daily basis - you will vote Labour and hold your nose.
You will then pretend that somehow you have united the country and that all is well.
If you don't vote you will be responsible for determining the final result too - hold your nose and vote.
All other issues, NHS blah, blah, blah are irrelevant as everything promised, will never happen in the way its been stated. That is for 100% sure.
I've a gut feeling that Parliament will be hung and that is the worst of all possible worlds as it will render the UK in an even more atrocious position.