zagatoes30
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If it's broken?
gs clutch collapse. need help please
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If it's broken?
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Craig I would carefully check the validity of whats stated in that Ebay link.
The claim is the clutch fits an MC Stradale(4.7)F1 MY14 yet my understanding is this model has a twin clutch set up ... could be wrong and I think same point may have come up in a previous thread
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Okay thank you that's what I thought as well, the listing must be wrong then, when in doubt submit it to the forum!
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Let you guys know I am scheduling to take the car over to put it on the computer before I tear it apart. I am pretty certain what it is, to the point I already ordered the throw-out bearing from Hill Engineering. I will also figure out how much the clutch reset, and computer time will cost after I put the clutch in.
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Was talking to an Alfa man today and he is suggesting the actuator rather than the clutch on mine. Apparently Selespeed Alfas do something very similar in that 1st & 2nd select correctly but nothing else - always a fault in the actuator - Interesting.
Hopefully Emblem will get it next week so the diagnosis can begin.
Hopefully Emblem will get it next week so the diagnosis can begin.
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Well this is very interesting in that we both are exhibiting the same symptoms. So I guess I really need to see what's going on as well.
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okay guys couldn't help myself. I torn my trunk apart and since I have 1st and 2nd still I tried something. I unplugged the solenoid for 1st on the actuator to see if any lights would come up in the dash when I toggled it. None did, and the car stayed right in "N" (obviously). No noises or warning lights. I used to also have reverse, I unplugged the solenoid for reverse went to the car attempted reverse (obviously I knew it wouldn't go because I unplugged it but I wanted it to send the signal so I could see what happened when I plugged the solenoid back in). When I plugged the solenoid back in it started making this funny sound. It did it twice then stopped. So to make a long story short Zagatoes the guy might be correct. It actually might be the F1 actuator. This would be consistent on why the clutch wasn't slipping at all. Ahhh the mystery of the Maserati...........sigh.
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So do you still only get 1 & 2? What if you unplug & re-connect 3, 4, 5 & 6?
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Yes I still only get 1st and 2nd, I tried to unplug all of them and it didn't make a difference. What I am wondering is what would happen if I switched the #1 solenoid with the reverse solenoid? They are side by side. Would it confuse the car or would it toggle it differently?
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I don't know the answer to that, but it may just be that your gearbox needs to re-learn which needs an sD2. Also, you will only get 3rd and above if you are moving, but you probably know that.
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Yes indeed, I am taking it in anyway to the Aston Martin dealer to get it plugged in this week.
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Hoping mine will arrive at Emblem this week so i will keep you posted of what they find
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Okay thank you Zagatoes, I was also told from someone who rebuilds Ferrari/Maserati F1 actuators that I needed to plug the car into the SD2/3 to be sure that the vehicle speed input is good to the TCU or the vehicles gearbox ecu, as the car will not up-shift beyond 2nd if it's not. As soon as I get a confirmation either way I will also post.
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I just had an event on my GS, car was cold, got to a junction and car would not move even when in gear, accelerator just gave a dull rumble from engine, then suddenly engine revs came in, car still not moving, selected neutral and then back in gear and it moved off, with occasional what sounded like slip, but may have disengaged for a second or two. As the car warmed all was fine and it has not done it since, weird, or what..??
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when you say cold how cold are we talking? My clutch engagement actually seems most touchy right after I start the car. It grabs right away, almost jerky in reverse. So I don't know that temp. would work against it unless the hydraulic fluid was really cold and gummy. Did any lights appear in the dash? Clutch slipping is never a good thing in these cars as far as I knew, people want me to be an optimist, but I haven't really found that works when it comes to this car. Maybe in some business adventures, or entrepreneurial situations but when it comes to this car it doesn't really work that way.
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This was only a few days ago and I was maybe 1/2 mile from home, so the car was not fully up to heat..!! Normally I have few issues, no lumpiness, or being jerky, just drives normal. This day was most unusual and has not happened since, I know I am at the higher levels of my clutch wear at 30K, but I think it has a little way to go yet and was planning maybe to change before Modena. I am not even sure if it is clutch, it could be an electronic glitch, just wondered if anyone else has had this sort of event..??
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Robert, mine did this once in Sainsburys car park. I drove the car from work which is about 2 miles so the car was only just up to temp.
Left the car for maybe 10 mins, started it and engaged first, 1 came up on the dash indicator, pressed the gas, revs went up, but no movement.
I thought handbrake so got out and rocked the car, no issue, tried and again and it did the same.
Swithced off, restarted and off she went as normal.
I had several issues with my car when I first got is as it had been sat in a showroom for 3 months and the battery was knackered plus I also found that one of the battery piggyback terminals was loose.
Changed the battery and tightened this up and all was well (oh and removed the tracker) and all those niggly issues went away......until the bridge can unit blew some months later. This controls all the dash electrics, sport button, suspension and the gear indicator.
Hope this is of some help.
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Matt,
That's interesting..!! The battery seems fine, never a problem, the tracker is the ADR type and has never been a problem..!! I suspect it's electronic and not the clutch and I will do a check on the battery terminals, it was just very weird and out of the blue, never happened since either..??
Cheers
R
That's interesting..!! The battery seems fine, never a problem, the tracker is the ADR type and has never been a problem..!! I suspect it's electronic and not the clutch and I will do a check on the battery terminals, it was just very weird and out of the blue, never happened since either..??
Cheers
R
