WOW: Ferrari P4 For Sale

Parisien

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Dan....................you know what.........thats a *******...............................am sure the intrnal organ crushing bit appealed to you.....!!!

If its a TOY........you want thats very sellable after....go for it assumimg Madame GTD says its ok.....:)


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BennyD

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I thought that too. Personally, I'm not a fan of the aesthetics; it looks ugly to me but the craftsmanship looks very nice. IMO, a Ferrari V12 or even a V8 would be a better choice of engine rather than a blown straight 4 from one of its greatest opponents.
 

MAF260

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Have you seen the other shockers they're selling? Dreadful F430 renditions based on a MR2, or a F360 based on a Peugeot!!!
 

conaero

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Not for me Dan, if it aint real, I aint having it.

Its nice, but it still has the air of that MR2/F355 that pulled into Ace that time, driven by Ali G in knock off Ferrari trainers.

Its build well, that much I do respect.
 

fcz360

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i loathe the crappy replicas, there was a 360 based on an mr2 i think at my local pub trying to pass it off as real which was so funny, so we let him go on for a week or 2 then i turned up and parked next to him, he didnt come back. Didnt mercedes destroy one recently, Ferrari need to do the same.

I do appreciate this P4 but would call it a recreation which i can cope with (with a V12)
 

ajb101

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I'm with others on this, the job looks beautifully done, until you see the meagre lump over-pushed to achieve big power. At least something with 6 pistons would've been better than a 'four-pot' :/.
 

CatmanV2

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I don't get it at all. To me it's like buying copy perfume, or clothing. What's the point?

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conaero

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I know someone on this forum that is restoring an original P4, how is that going Arnie?
 

Dan!

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Agree with the comments regarding the tasteless MR2 monstrosities, where as this appears to have been built from scratch. And yes an odd engine choice.

Pretty though :D
 

Parisien

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Pretty......plenty of power......built by people with a reputation.......whats not to like!

How many 100K for a real one??!!


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ajb101

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I don't get it at all. To me it's like buying copy perfume, or clothing. What's the point?

Here is your answer :) ...

How many 100K for a real one??!!P

There are on occasion, replicas built to great standards and the bonus you get is that the underpinnings of the vehicle will be done to todays technology standards (for the most part :) )

I've often given thought to having a Mirage Countach replica, however, the reality that it is a fake wins every time, but say, if the replica outperformed the original in terms of cornering and stability and acceleration and braking, then, I suspect I could succumb.
 

Phil H

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Doesn’t it depend on the owner’s view of a replica? In my book it’s a bit dippy to present one as the real thing regardless of whether it’s a Proteus D-Type, Teal Bugatti, Hawk Stratos, or MR2 based 360/355, but if an owner has one because they like the design and a rep is all they can afford is that so bad – regardless of the price tag?

I’ve seen various replicas over the years, some good, some terrible, and one might try to differentiate between ‘recreations’ and ‘replicas’. For instance various models of Ferraris, Bugattis, Maseratis, et al have been manufactured as close to original specifications as possible; they are hugely expensive and generally referred to as recreations, whilst at the other end of the scale you have things like the MR2 and Fiero based cars which are regarded as replicas. The fact is that they are all replicas, as by definition they are not original cars of the correct period and manufacture, and they can have no provenance.

To be picky, is a 4200 a genuine Maserati, after all it doesn’t use an original Maserati engine design does it? Would the brothers have approved? And is a Cygnet just an Aston Martin recreation of a Toyota, or is it a hybrid with no proper lineage?

Each to their own, I say.

Two of the nicest ‘Maseratis’ that I covet are these:

http://www.tipo250.co.uk/

http://www.sovereigncarsales.co.uk/Classic_gridpos7.aspx

And they’re not even the real thing, so how would they be regarded at a club night?

Now I’m off to collect some Robert Taylor prints; only prints mind (although they do carry original RT and veterans’ signatures).

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ajb101

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In the cases you've provided there Phil, I think it's great that they're made like that, because it would be a crying shame for people to use any remaining real ones to play on tracks with. I watched a few episodes of GT Racer (or similarly titled program,) and I just found it uncomfortable to watch, this unease was made worse every time I saw these vehicles get damaged, and they were (as far as I know) all real versions.

The MR2 Ferrari... I just don't know really, the real thing can be picked up for not much more than it costs to create the replica, I just don't see the point of those myself. But it is like you say Phil, a totally personal choice and this is why there is such a strong kit-car business in this country. :)