The excitement and passion is gone

[dickygrace]

Slight thread drift but I had my first experience last week of a shop refusing cash. Card only, apparently started in covid to ‘protect the staff’ and has carried on. Won’t be long before the big eye knows everything…

Had that loads of places, pubs especially.

 

[Scaf]

Most banks now charge businesses to pay cash in.

and to take “change” back out, ridiculous.

 

[MarkMas]

I have, over the past few years, toyed with the idea of getting a Tesla, but Elon Musk is becoming such an utter shît that I don't think I could buy one now.

 

[vulcan1208]

Slight thread drift but I had my first experience last week of a shop refusing cash. Card only, apparently started in covid to ‘protect the staff’ and has carried on. Won’t be long before the big eye knows everything…

During covid when most people asked customers to use card a local Chinese restaurant suddenly stopped accepting cards and had a sign "Cash only", coincidentally the furlough scheme started at around the same time and when the scheme ended they went back to accepting cards. Now wonder the countries finances are so bad.

 

[vulcan1208]

Cant agree more, bought my wife a little Suzuki Vitara, showroom handover, car cover, flowers….

My friend has a Tesla with ludicrous mode (Model S?) it’s super fast, but soulless…… horrible thing, but zero benefit in kind so he saves a fortune against having a proper car.

I am lovin the fact that EV’s will start paying car tax and expect the benefit in kind to be taxed in the future as well.

And hearing that the Swiss may ban their non essential use during peak energy times this winter made my day.

You have inspired me to take the Strad for a run today, and I may even dig the Sunbeam Tiger out of the garage as well.

A Tiger !!!! I had a series 3 alpine for years, it was my first car and I sold it for £125 when the children arrived but loved every minute of having it, I'm sad I never got the chance to drive a tiger.

 

[Wack61]

Now the big boys are on the EV bus I'm surprised that tesla's are still selling in any great numbers, with dashcam prosecutions becoming more commonplace there's a fair risk if you decide to give it a foot full

Without the 2% BIK and acceleration I doubt they'd sell any in the UK

I don't have 50k or £1000 a month to spend on a car but if I did there's no chance it'd be a tesla.

 

[philw696]

I’d suggest you could run a very nice motor for 3 years and lose just £36k in depreciation instead of a boring EV.

Absolutely 100%
One life Live it.

 

[Tallman]

Slight thread drift but I had my first experience last week of a shop refusing cash. Card only, apparently started in covid to ‘protect the staff’ and has carried on. Won’t be long before the big eye knows everything…

I was always of the impression that cash was legal tender and therefor could not be refused. It seems that is no longer the case, also here in South Africa, where many people still don’t have a bank account and so technically only can pay with cash - not exactly equitable but there you go.

 

[zagatoes30]

In Dublin nearly ever coffee shop prefers card payments and I get scowled at when I offer up notes but in the country where I live its the opposite, neither local Chinese take cards just cash, the local DIY store ask if you have cash and if you want an invoice and then the price drops by 23% and I would hate to think what would happen if you offered your phone to swipe in the local pub

 

[Scaf]

A Tiger !!!! I had a series 3 alpine for years, it was my first car and I sold it for £125 when the children arrived but loved every minute of having it, I'm sad I never got the chance to drive a tiger.

she is a beauty and a real handful if you push on !

 

[Zep]

I think the white goods analogy is a good one. The vast majority of people consider cars to be just that, a commodity, otherwise how can you explain the sales of Nissan Juke / Quasqui.

I’m totally ambivalent about it, I’ll be keeping my car and if anyone else wants an electric one, that’s their look out. It got nothing to do with individuality and everything to do with the vast majority of road users wanting something different from motoring than us.

As for not taking cash, I don’t care about that either, it makes absolutely no difference to me.

I’ll try really, really hard to think of something that has changed since the 70s which I don’t like and have the energy to complain about, but no promises

 

[JimBlob]

I think the white goods analogy is a good one. The vast majority of people consider cars to be just that, a commodity, otherwise how can you explain the sales of Nissan Juke / Quasqui.

I’m totally ambivalent about it, I’ll be keeping my car and if anyone else wants an electric one, that’s their look out. It got nothing to do with individuality and everything to do with the vast majority of road users wanting something different from motoring than us.

As for not taking cash, I don’t care about that either, it makes absolutely no difference to me.

I’ll try really, really hard to think of something that has changed since the 70s which I don’t like and have the energy to complain about, but no promises

size of wagon wheels??

 

[CatmanV2]

I was always of the impression that cash was legal tender and therefor could not be refused

A common misconception. It's legal tender so can be accepted for the settlement of all debts etc. But doesn't mean you have to accept it.

Much along the lines of 'you have to sell me that thing at the price it has in the window' Well, no I don't actually.

C

 

[DLax69]

I have, over the past few years, toyed with the idea of getting a Tesla, but Elon Musk is becoming such an utter shît that I don't think I could buy one now.

This. If you want an EV, you can buy one from a non-neo-Nazi. That said...I don't.

 

[RodTungsten]

Drift squared: EV road fund licensing is coming. Anyone heard how this will be levied?

 

[montravia]

During covid when most people asked customers to use card a local Chinese restaurant suddenly stopped accepting cards and had a sign "Cash only", coincidentally the furlough scheme started at around the same time and when the scheme ended they went back to accepting cards. Now wonder the countries finances are so bad.

Must be the one I'm sitting in in Stow on the Wold. Nothing but cash payment

 

[Bilko]

I took my son in law to pick up his new Tesla model Y yesterday and what a depressing experience it was, the pick up was from the Tesla self service point located on the ground floor of a dark, grey, concrete carpark at the **** end of the Bluewater shopping center. There was one guy there who did not even have a cabin to sit in and was freezing, his job was to hand over the key and show people how to access the "Tesla tutorials" on the screen, that's it, there was no handover as such and the guy said that no PDI had been done, any faults need to be raised on line and a tech will visit, it was, as I say, pretty depressing and a stark contrast to when I picked up my Ala 156 GTA a few years back which was roped off in the center of the showroom under a red dustsheet with an Alfa logo on it and a bouquet of flowers on the passenger seat for my wife.

When I picked him up to take him to the pickup point I used my 3200 and said to him in jest "I'm using it just to remind you what a real car is like to drive". I have since been in the Tesla and whilst the tech is amazing I just cant get enthusiastic about sitting in faux leather seats looking out over plastic and fake wood with nothing in front of me. Don't get me wrong it's a fantastic achievement in terms of tech and if you want a relaxing drive with no drama then I'm sure its one of the best although I am sure there are better. On a more positive note I have just been out for an early drive in my 3200 this morning just to remind myself why I still keep it; with the Tesla I could have pre heated the cabin, pre heated the battery for higher cold start performance and checked the car over from the comfort of my armchair all via wireless data (and paid half as much for the fuel) but there would be no noise, no fumes, no instrument binnacle and most importantly no FUN.

I’ve recently been a passenger in a Porsche Panamera.. unbelievably quick, but soulless the owner said “I miss the V8 sound” I replied so do I then I drove home in my 3200 with straight through exhaust at full hooliganism

 

[gb-gta]

Absolutely 100%
One life Live it.

A VW camper van then, they all have that sticker !

 

[gb-gta]

Some resist. Coffee shop in Exeter preferred cash - card fees took a hefty piece of their income..

Saw this recently with regard to cashless society/CBDC.



‘Why should we pay cash everywhere with banknotes instead of a card?

- I have a £50 banknote in my pocket. I go to a restaurant and paying for dinner with it. The restaurant owner then uses the note to pay for the laundry. The laundry owner then uses the note to pay the barber. The barber will then use the note for shopping. After an unlimited number of payments, it will still remain a £50, which has fulfilled its purpose to everyone who used it for payment and the bank has not gained from every cash payment transaction made..

- But if I come to a restaurant and pay for dinner digitally - Card bank fees for my payment transaction charged to the seller are 3%, so around £1.50 and so the fee will be £1.50 for each further payment transaction or owner re laundry or payments of the owner of the laundry shop, or payments of the barber etc..... Therefore, after 30 transactions, the initial £50 will remain only £5 and the remaining £45 became the property of the bank thanks to all digital transactions and fees.

More human interactions, more questions, more conversations about why cash needs to be everyone’s priority. No one needs to know where I shop, how much I spend and what I buy. Ask yourself who is pushing a digital currencies only future and why.’

 

[CatmanV2]

This does rather ignore the hidden cost of processing cash. So while you still have £50 you have less time and you've spent more on fuel to get to the bank etc etc

C