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Zep

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But for the sake of discussion here, I do think there's a potential Achilles heel to having the whole world in a cloud.

I don’t disagree, however given that the rest of the system which provides electrons to the “in” side of your meter is operated and governed by computers, how do you quantify the additional risk? The term Achilles heel refers to a single catastrophic vulnerability. If Achilles were alive today, he would be one giant heel, if you think about what could happen, rather than what is likely to happen.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t think about what could happen (while using a handheld device that basically runs our lives, which shows that we generally only worry about the risk of things we don’t like), but if you follow that argument to its logical conclusion you end up living in the wilderness being followed around by a Discovery Channel film crew.
 
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I don’t disagree, however given that the rest of the system which provides electrons to the “in” side of your meter is operated and governed by computers, how do you quantify the additional risk? The term Achilles heel refers to a single catastrophic vulnerability. If Achilles were alive today, he would be one giant heel, if you think about what could happen, rather than what is likely to happen.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t think about what could happen (while using a handheld device that basically runs our lives, which shows that we generally only worry about the risk of things we don’t like), but if you follow that argument to its logical conclusion you end up living in the wilderness being followed around by a Discovery Channel film crew.

'Heel' Just saying ;)

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DLax69

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I don’t disagree, however given that the rest of the system which provides electrons to the “in” side of your meter is operated and governed by computers, how do you quantify the additional risk? The term Achilles heel refers to a single catastrophic vulnerability. If Achilles were alive today, he would be one giant heel, if you think about what could happen, rather than what is likely to happen.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t think about what could happen (while using a handheld device that basically runs our lives, which shows that we generally only worry about the risk of things we don’t like), but if you follow that argument to its logical conclusion you end up living in the wilderness being followed around by a Discovery Channel film crew.
...not sure I see the issue with the scenario you propose, in the wilderness...so long as there's a track, so I can drive my non-connected 4200s!

Understand incremental risk; just more potential entry points/gateways...and one would expect that the primary focus would be on the "in" side and less so on the endpoint. Everything you say is totally valid, no tinfoil hat, here. But my handheld device does nothing more than email, text, make calls, and allow me to look at this site every once in a while, whilst in a meeting!
 
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rockits

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It does. I mean, it can be stopped, but it ain't easy

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Agreed. I wonder how low level it goes beyond software though especially with Google developing their one CPU's. You can turn it off in software but if Google have control at every level below it isn't off at all!
 

DLax69

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Here's a new one, electrically heated walls. Presumably interior walls.

So, now you are gonna live INSIDE a toaster...?

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