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GeoffCapes

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Nibby said:
Going back to my original point it was the amount of workers that came here in a short space of time, no one can disagree this had a negative effect on the local low paid workers at the time.
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I do a lot of work with hotels and hotel chains. One of the biggest issues for them is that those European workers who came to the UK to do the 'low paid unskilled jobs' are going back to the country of their birth because of the uncertainty with Brexit.
This is leaving thousands of positions empty.
You would think there would be a clamour from all of those who complained about foreigners coming over here taking their jobs to fill these positions wouldn't you?

But no, these low paid, unskilled jobs are clearly beneath you average unemployed unskilled UK citizen as they remain unfilled.
Because of the minimum wage and benefit levels, those on the dole will only be marginally better off working than they would doing nothing and collecting their benefits, so where is the incentive?

At least those who came here to work, actually did work, which its more that you can say for a large number of unemployed people who complained about 'foreigners taking our jobs'.
 
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Grand Tour series 1; episode 6; Hammond driving through London reviewing the Ford Mustang,
Houses of Parliament - That’s where we keep our idiots......
How prophetic of him...
 
Nibby

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GeoffCapes said:
I do a lot of work with hotels and hotel chains. One of the biggest issues for them is that those European workers who came to the UK to do the 'low paid unskilled jobs' are going back to the country of their birth because of the uncertainty with Brexit.
This is leaving thousands of positions empty.
You would think there would be a clamour from all of those who complained about foreigners coming over here taking their jobs to fill these positions wouldn't you?

But no, these low paid, unskilled jobs are clearly beneath you average unemployed unskilled UK citizen as they remain unfilled.
Because of the minimum wage and benefit levels, those on the dole will only be marginally better off working than they would doing nothing and collecting their benefits, so where is the incentive?

At least those who came here to work, actually did work, which its more that you can say for a large number of unemployed people who complained about 'foreigners taking our jobs'.
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It's not so much foreigners taking jobs it's more a case of keeping the rates down.
I might be wrong here but I think the days of dishing dole money out like confetti have long gone.
Will we see Poland become very wealthy as all their hard workers return home?
 
Oneball

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Nibby said:
Oh no not a hockey fan?
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No, just don’t get football. When my Mum was little in the 50s her dad would take her to Villa matches. You couldn’t do that when I was young, people got killed at football matches and the Montenegro match proved not a lot has changed.

No one throws coins at the ref in rugby or cricket or hockey or basketball.

I’m not a cricket fan but took my brother in law to see England India a few years ago. We spent the day getting bladdered next to a group of twenty something India fans, the most offensive thing that happened was someone farted!
 
conaero

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GeoffCapes said:
I do a lot of work with hotels and hotel chains. One of the biggest issues for them is that those European workers who came to the UK to do the 'low paid unskilled jobs' are going back to the country of their birth because of the uncertainty with Brexit.
This is leaving thousands of positions empty.
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Relax...the UK has a couple of million unemployed...we will be alright.
 
conaero

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...the only thing you should be concerned about is not getting across the channel to Le Mans....then we will really have something to moan about!
 
lifes2short

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GeoffCapes said:
I do a lot of work with hotels and hotel chains. One of the biggest issues for them is that those European workers who came to the UK to do the 'low paid unskilled jobs' are going back to the country of their birth because of the uncertainty with Brexit.
This is leaving thousands of positions empty.
You would think there would be a clamour from all of those who complained about foreigners coming over here taking their jobs to fill these positions wouldn't you?

But no, these low paid, unskilled jobs are clearly beneath you average unemployed unskilled UK citizen as they remain unfilled.
Because of the minimum wage and benefit levels, those on the dole will only be marginally better off working than they would doing nothing and collecting their benefits, so where is the incentive?

At least those who came here to work, actually did work, which its more that you can say for a large number of unemployed people who complained about 'foreigners taking our jobs'.
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well said and totaly agree with you there, all these spongers are full of sh1t and they could learn a lot from these hard working immigrants
 
Swedish Paul

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Really, that’s where the problem lies globally, not just the UK. Inflation is kept artificially low, wages are kept low, interest rates stay low. Pushing the cost along to the next part of the chain. Borrowing is fueled by low interest rates (unless you’re poor in which case they’ll lend to you like junk bonds and take everything you have when you can’t afford it because of low wages), banks need to make money. Everything stagnates. A huge readjustment will come, and the only people it will hurt is the less well off as they catch up. I know the economists believe in low inflation, but in the real world a 5% interest rate would be better? Why? If you have. 100,000 mortgage and get a 5% raise every year, the mortgage gets cheaper over time and the personal disposable income gets greater. Then you can buy your holidays in a few years time without credit. Right now, nothing changes. So people take more credit.

With cheap labour, prices don’t go up much and so there is less inflationary pressure.
 
Phil the Brit

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Nibby said:
Basically we beat a country called Montenegro 5-1 and the Montenegro fans behaved like a load of backward morons living in a time warp booing and insulting our black players.
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Then, like Croatia was recently, they should be fined and made to play their next three games behind closed doors. There should be no tolerance in football for this nowadays.
 
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Phil the Brit said:
Then, like Croatia was recently, they should be fined and made to play their next three games behind closed doors. There should be no tolerance in football for this nowadays.
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Absolutely and I'm afraid a lot of the Eastern Europeans are the worse culprits especially Croatia.
 
lifes2short

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Nibby said:
Basically we beat a country called Montenegro 5-1 and the Montenegro fans behaved like a load of backward morons living in a time warp booing and insulting our black players.
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can I be controversial here, if I were getting paid anywhere between 15 to 175k a week I really wouldn't give a flying fook what those in bred low lives were chanting
 
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