Brexit Deal

[doodlebug]

... The German politician and AfD leader Alice Weidel had it right in her address the other day. Finally a politician in another EU state sees and says it how it is...

You do realise that the AfD is an extreme right party, don't you? Be careful what you wish for.

 

[conaero]

I believe it will be better for the UK after we leave, deal or no deal. The EU is a busted flush and if we leave with no deal that will hasten the end - no £39bn and huge damage to supply chains into one of their largest markets. The German politician and AfD leader Alice Weidel had it right in her address the other day. Finally a politician in another EU state sees and says it how it is. And when we leave, within a short time the EU will have to publicly recognise its mistakes in this whole political process and will be looking to urgently agree a trade deal that will undo all the damage it will have done to its trading nations. At which point I hope the UK has the balls to play hardball and exact some revenge.

Very well written and have a near similar opinion of a likely outcome.

 

[Rwc13]

You do realise that the AfD is an extreme right party, don't you? Be careful what you wish for.

I’m not aware I wished for anything did I?

But what she said on this occasion, which had nothing to do with “far right” politics, and everything to do with the commercial reality of the situation, rather than the political nonsense and lies that are being told, mostly by the EU and remainers, feels honest and correct in my view. Juncker and Barnier will complete the destruction of the EU because of their egos and political ambitions. All IMHO of course.....

 

[GeoffCapes]

If it all went really tuts up for long enough that Dover lost a load of trade to the old ferry ports it’d be nothing but a good thing, we’re far too reliant on Dover.

It just happens to be the most cost effective way of getting stuff to Europe. So we will always rely on it.

 

[Wattie]

That does not look good does it Wattie. Adds more fuel to why is the UK accepting what Europe decides...the boot should be on the other foot.

The Honourable Gentlemen and leader of SMFUCOFF is 100% accurate.Maybe the EU are practicing for Mays deal,,,,,,
We need to grow some as a country!

 

[GeoffCapes]

And when we leave, within a short time the EU will have to publicly recognise its mistakes in this whole political process and will be looking to urgently agree a trade deal that will undo all the damage it will have done to its trading nations. At which point I hope the UK has the balls to play hardball and exact some revenge.

I would like to think that will happen.

However, it remains to be seen at what cost before they get a trade deal signed?

 

[Wattie]

I believe it will be better for the UK after we leave, deal or no deal. The EU is a busted flush and if we leave with no deal that will hasten the end - no £39bn and huge damage to supply chains into one of their largest markets. The German politician and AfD leader Alice Weidel had it right in her address the other day. Finally a politician in another EU state sees and says it how it is. And when we leave, within a short time the EU will have to publicly recognise its mistakes in this whole political process and will be looking to urgently agree a trade deal that will undo all the damage it will have done to its trading nations. At which point I hope the UK has the balls to play hardball and exact some revenge.

The member makes valid points with his observations as did Alice..... a Dr no less.
The Eu Patient is on life support and Brexit is an opportunity to provide some long needed EUthanasia!!
I’ll give way

 

[Oneball]

The member makes valid points with his observations as did Alice..... a Dr no less.
The Eu Patient is on life support and Brexit is an opportunity to provide some long needed EUthanasia!!
I’ll give way

Josef Mengele and Harold Shipman were doctors too.

 

[conaero]

All these votes in the HofC why not have Mays deal main items listed out and you tick yes or no?

99% The backstop will be the main issue.

Go back to the EU and say "theres your issue, change it or its a no deal exit"

...or am I just being a simpleton?

 

[GeoffCapes]

All these votes in the HofC why not have Mays deal main items listed out and you tick yes or no?

99% The backstop will be the main issue.

Go back to the EU and say "theres your issue, change it or its a no deal exit"

...or am I just being a simpleton?

Because it's just brinkmanship now.

We either leave with no deal. Or we don't leave.

I can't see anything else happening. No one in the UK wants a hard border between ROI and NI.
That is non negotiable to anyone old enough to remember what the IRA did.

The EU can't or won't see past that so what's left?

I think even the most hardened Brexiter would rather remain than have the IRA pick up their weapons again.

 

[MaserCoupe]

All these votes in the HofC why not have Mays deal main items listed out and you tick yes or no?

99% The backstop will be the main issue.

Go back to the EU and say "theres your issue, change it or its a no deal exit"

...or am I just being a simpleton?

Except for the fact that the backstop is a technical and operational solution as an insurance. The EU negotiators worked on the line we the U.K. proposed...and no you’re not being a simpleton. Remember We the U.K. are the ones who asked to leave.

 

[Nibby]

I think even the most hardened Brexiter would rather remain than have the IRA pick up their weapons again.

I hear what your saying but we can't be held to ransome.
It's time to respect the result and the fact it was a close run thing and all the MP's will have to face-up they're not going to get everything they want and move on.
After an agreement is reached I'll be quite happy if I don't hear the words Brexit and Remain ever again.

 

[GeoffCapes]

I hear what your saying but we can't be held to ransome.
It's time to respect the result and the fact it was a close run thing and all the MP's will have to face-up they're not going to get everything they want and move on.
After an agreement is reached I'll be quite happy if I don't hear the words Brexit and Remain ever again.

That's the thing. We can be held to ransom, and we are being held to ransom.

 

[MaserCoupe]

That's the thing. We can be held to ransom, and we are being held to ransom.

By the ERG!

 

[Nibby]

By the ERG!

...and the Remain MP's who lost.

 

[MaserCoupe]

...and the Remain MP's who lost.

How so?

 

[Nibby]

How so?

Not facing up to the fact they lost, trying to force another referendum.

 

[MaserCoupe]

Interesting news interview with Ford Europe chairman Steven Armstrong on Sky News re tariffs and the future.... Very sobering indeed.

 

[MaserCoupe]

Not facing up to the fact they lost, trying to force another referendum.

Why do you suppose, do you think they actually see the dangers that the ERG aren’t fessing up to by crashing out? Ask yourself what the remain MP’s have to gain? Err not much except to see their constituents not get poorer and to not get burned. And also the small matter of representing the 16 odd million who want to remain. Or should they be silenced too.

 

[Nibby]

Why do you suppose, do you rhink they actually see the dangers that the ERG aren’t fessing up to by crashing out? Ask yourself what the remain MP’s have to gain? Err not much except to see their constituents not get poorer and to not get burned. And also the small matter of representing the the 16 odd million who want to remain. Or should they be silenced too.

How about the towns that had thousands of unskilled workers turn up from Eastern Europe competing with the local unskilled workers in the early 2000's and undercutting them? Making sure the hourly rate was the bare minimum.
Being in the EU might be an advantage to some people but FOM had a negative impact on a lot of poor communities.