Are you worried yet.

[philw696]

 

[Oneball]

Matt Hancock is just hoping he bought 28 days grace tonight and has made the testing, testing, testing questions go away for the month.
100.000 per day from 30/4/20 then!
He has gone from "very trustworthy" for me just two weeks ago to "downright liar" now.
Also what were the BBC doing tonight, they cut the broadcast of the last questions to show the weather and a bit about what was on TV later tonight.
Far more important........NOT.

We’re British, of course the weather is more important

 

[Silvercat]

It's a pity that all that manufacturing testing and delivering is completely pointless.

Tell the 20-40% who survive this that it was all pointless.

 

[philw696]

 

[philw696]

 

[Felonious Crud]

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I think the name of that post suggests a degree of bias.

Or maybe I'm just biased.

 

[Saigon]

I think the name of that post suggests a degree of bias.

Or maybe I'm just biased.

Let’s all be honest and agree that it would not be much, if any different at all today or tomorrow, irrespective of which party were in power when this all started. Politics are not really the issue right now. Questions can be answered later, and there will be a lot of world wide questions, but at present those questions are better not being asked!

 

[Wanderer]

Let’s all be honest and agree that it would not be much, if any different at all today or tomorrow, irrespective of which party were in power when this all started. Politics are not really the issue right now. Questions can be answered later, and there will be a lot of world wide questions, but at present those questions are better not being asked!

I know I'll get it for this but I think Corbyn would have done this very differently, not politically, just socially. It's a question of priorities, and the Labour Party would hold health and ordinary peoples finances above the economy, important tho that is. It's their doctrine.

Whatever, I'm certain there would not have been this faffing and lying we've been force fed by the current Gov, and Corbs doesn't have COV-19 like most of the leaders we have now!

But it's not about that. I say we coalesce, it's too important to let one party deal with it.

 

[Felonious Crud]

Let’s all be honest and agree that it would not be much, if any different at all today or tomorrow, irrespective of which party were in power when this all started. Politics are not really the issue right now. Questions can be answered later, and there will be a lot of world wide questions, but at present those questions are better not being asked!

Oh, God, yeah. At least that one was honest enough about its bias instead of pretending to be a newspaper, or wit.

And let's face it, it's hardly a new thing. The pamphlets churned out doing the Reformation played to primitive fears and bias, only they were pinned to doors and posts and anything possible instead of popping up at random while we're trying to work, text a friend or knock one out over Pornhub. Er, probably.

 

[Zep]

Goodness, is it another wankathon? I raised 28p last time. Happy to give it another go!

I thought they had phased out the half penny?

 

[iainw]

Known about what since December? Didn’t the first cases only emerge in China right at the end of December? So the UK Government should have immediately in December done what? Ordered a whole load of additional PPE and respirators because a new virus had been identified in a small number of human cases? And before anything was known about how contagious or deadly it might be? Potentially wasting millions for which it would have been thoroughly criticised if it had turned out to be not very contagious/deadly. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.....

I suggest you just concentrate on self isolation, drinking red wine, driving your tractor and polishing your cars, and let others deal with things. Quite frankly your thoughts and actions are irrelevant - and I think deep down you know they have always been such.

 

[iainw]

Hence the use of the word “anything” rather than “everything”?

It is just so easy to criticise everybody else isn’t it? Throw stones from the oh so comfortable position of not being responsible for anything other than constantly promoting the worst case scenario of everything. People in positions of responsibility sadly don’t have that luxury. They have to make real world decisions and be held responsible by other people when, with the benefit of hindsight, they get it wrong.

I agree, but frankly when a frontline surgeon/ key NHS employee and well informed member of this forum gets this sort of response it Fecks me off. View attachment 67841

its laughable wattie, I don’t take it seriously - these office based public servants know what the front line think of them. And have zero idea what real responsibility means. What’s happening at the moment is phenomonenal.

 

[Scaf]

I know I'll get it for this but I think Corbyn would have done this very differently, not politically, just socially. It's a question of priorities, and the Labour Party would hold health and ordinary peoples finances above the economy, important tho that is. It's their doctrine.

Whatever, I'm certain there would not have been this faffing and lying we've been force fed by the current Gov, and Corbs doesn't have COV-19 like most of the leaders we have now!

But it's not about that. I say we coalesce, it's too important to let one party deal with it.

Very possibly but without the help of Harry Potter and his wand they would still not have been able to conjure up :-

• huge supplies of PPE that don’t exist in the market
• ventilators that no one knew we would need
• test for a virus that came out of nowhere

I am sure they would have managed to give a load more money away though - now and required for that one.

 

[iainw]

Look, i can take the mistakes and the errors and the "didn't see that coming" problems................
BUT the LIES I can't take.
The lies over testing and the lies over PPE for healthcare workers, the "ramping up" and "coming tomorrow" we are in discussion with the supermarkets lies.
That is why our government should face detailed examination and heads should roll.
For full disclosure I am neither pro or anti Conservative.
I just want honesty in government. (oxymoron?).

I would agree with this. Although i personally think they should have prepared earlier and better they ‘may’ have hoped it wouldn’t turn out how it has. They should have said they didn’t see it coming to this level. I must admit, although I definitely would have prepared for the worst (you can never get criticised for having too much PPE and Testing lots etc) - it would be far better if they said they didn’t see this coming and these are the reasons why. It’s a shame as I agree with the people on here who have said they have been impressed with the new Nightingdale hospitals etc. The infrastructural preparations have been v solid and the capacity has expanded massively. The biggest failings have been 1) providing PPE and 2) lack of testing. Two things that Germany and South Korea did well. I agree with Mark- I was actually hopeful in Feb that it wouldn’t hit this bad- but there was One week in March when it just flipped for me. Now I am seeing first hand the effects. We are a week behind London where I am- but one can tell that there will be no escape. The numbers and sights do not lie. We really need to keep up this self isolation. This virus is phenomenal.

 

[lozcb]

I know I'll get it for this but I think Corbyn would have done this very differently, not politically, just socially. It's a question of priorities, and the Labour Party would hold health and ordinary peoples finances above the economy, important tho that is. It's their doctrine.

Whatever, I'm certain there would not have been this faffing and lying we've been force fed by the current Gov, and Corbs doesn't have COV-19 like most of the leaders we have now!

But it's not about that. I say we coalesce, it's too important to let one party deal with it.

Yeah , you really believe things would get done , its taken 4 months and they cant even decide or choose their own leader .......................................do we really have to go there ...................................remember the lights out scenario , and the empty piggy bank , or Gordon Brown the great mathmatician of a Chancellor who sold all our Gold reserves at an all time low ...................................not only that he advertised the sale ....so the market dropped it lower so everone else cashed in at our expense ........................is that enough or you want me to carry on , i have a really long list i can only presume either your too young to remember or have a selective ,memory but i lived through it

You really give cedibility to guy who has missus eleventy ninety two as his side kick

 

[Wack61]

The numbers and sights do not lie. We really need to keep up this self isolation. This virus is phenomenal.

Yet much of the public still don't believe it , My son was supposed to come home from uni 2 weeks ago but had a sore throat and a cough so self isolated for 2 weeks , I've been up today to move him out , the motorway was very quiet , barely any cars but Ormskirk was as busy as I've ever seen it

I read a post on facebook from Northants police saying they haven't had to issue a single ticket to anyone for being out without good reason so the public are adhering to the rules, but you only have to read the comments to see they must be patrolling the areas where compliance is high.

 

[Wack61]

My wife was on a call to the FIL last night and he said a 49 yr old twin had died from coved 19. This was in the village we lived in so maybe we would know her. I didn’t but my wife did.
The story goes like this, apparently she was unwell yesterday morning and went downhill rapidly, her immune system over reacted or something like that. She died in hospital yesterday evening.
That wasn’t even a day....
Was on the local news this morning too.

It's one of the reasons I'm so ****** off when I see someone thinking, going the long way round to the supermarket is just a bit of fun or a 30 mile bike ride counts as exercise because they've got a lycra suit, or driving the dog to the lake district for a walk when the government has instructed them not to

Until they see someone they love paralysed in hospital for 6 months after catching a virus they won't take it seriously, My wife Lynne had that in 2013 , it's a ******* but she survived it, Covid 19, she might not .

 

[D Walker]

Yeah , you really believe things would get done , its taken 4 months and they cant even decide or choose their own leader .......................................do we really have to go there ...................................remember the lights out scenario , and the empty piggy bank , or Gordon Brown the great mathmatician of a Chancellor who sold all our Gold reserves at an all time low ...................................not only that he advertised the sale ....so the market dropped it lower so everone else cashed in at our expense ........................is that enough or you want me to carry on , i have a really long list i can only presume either your too young to remember or have a selective ,memory but i lived through it

You really give cedibility to guy who has missus eleventy ninety two as his side kick

Don’t normally do politics, but I agree, does not matter who is in at the moment.
For the record, if anyone wants a list of the items we were missing when labour committed us to some fun in the sand....give me a shout, think I still have my melted black boots somewhere....

 

[iainw]

Yet much of the public still don't believe it , My son was supposed to come home from uni 2 weeks ago but had a sore throat and a cough so self isolated for 2 weeks , I've been up today to move him out , the motorway was very quiet , barely any cars but Ormskirk was as busy as I've ever seen it

I read a post on facebook from Northants police saying they haven't had to issue a single ticket to anyone for being out without good reason so the public are adhering to the rules, but you only have to read the comments to see they must be patrolling the areas where compliance is high.

Agree with you. It’s impossible to believe until it’s seen first hand or it touches someone close to you. For me- when eddie large succumbed- it really hit home....
Seriously though - with the realisation that no one is safe regardless of age, and the numbers are increasing day by day- everyone will believe it in the next 3-4 weeks.

 

[MarkMas]

Just been confirmed that the Industry consortium making a significant proportion of the 61,000 ventilators now on order with UKG will be manufacturing, testing and delivering to the NHS at least 1500 units per week and increasing quickly. So fantastic progress being made.

It's a pity that all that manufacturing testing and delivering is completely pointless.

Tell the 20-40% who survive this that it was all pointless.

I was being sarcastic (again). I really must stop doing that.

We have been informed by a"frontline surgeon/ key NHS employee and well informed member of this forum" (who tells us that he has been to Cambridge and has friends amongst the elite), that it "takes over 30 years to produce the staff" to operate a ventilator. So clearly, manufacturing, testing and delivering the ventilators will be useless, as they will be both too late and obsolete when the come into service in around 2050. We should just accept this truth that has been graciously bestowed upon us. Presumably, ordering them was just more Tory incompetence or a smokescreen, or maybe just an outright lie.

Those of us who lack this superior expertise have been clearly told that our "thoughts and actions are irrelevant", so I think we should all just shut up, and read and accept what our betters have to tell us.



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