Are you worried yet.

[Wattie]

The actions you have taken are potentially appropriate to your specific circumstances in Australia. You are clearly in a very different financial situation to the many on here and elsewhere. Perhaps spare a thought for those that cannot afford to simply lock down and spend their time buying gold and following the stock market. Most have to continue to provide a living for their family. Spreading hysteria and conspiracy theories, and criticising Government who are trying to manage this crisis for all, not just the financially secure, does not help anybody!!! No matter what you choose to tell yourself

They’re not specific to me, anyone could have applied them
Where have I spread hysteria and conspiracy theories? I’ve provided info relating to this topic that main stream doesn’t. An alternative view.... which has been denied but not disproved!

Bit like the last 10 years of Ponzi financial markets that Zerohedge has been proved correct on.... ignored by many till now....not me.

Of course not everyone buys gold, I’ve never sold an ounce through here, what I’ve done is highlight how vulnerable people’s savings are to what’s going on and tried to assist when required.

I’ve no idea who’s financially secure or not, I’ve assisted where I’ve been asked to.

I’d have done the same for you- presumably you’ve a pension or savings. You could’ve pm’d me at any time, like others and I’d have helped.

 

[MarkMas]

....Where have I spread hysteria and conspiracy theories? .....

To be fair, I'm not sure even I can claim that you have done that.

But you have argued vividly for this leading to an outcome of biblical nastiness, and advocated that people hunker down. Whether you turn out to be right about that or not, people are bound to be upset about the level of doom you are forecasting, and frustrated if they do not have the capacity to take all the protective steps that you are advocating.

Some people would prefer not to be told that the sky is falling; particularly if there is little that they can do about it.

 

[lozcb]

Looks like we're looking for a major lock down here in France.
Think there will be a major announcement by Macron today.
Certainly going to cost the World massively in lives and financial costs.

Some might say it's so typical of the French to pull out the white flag so early , others will say it's prudent , regardless Phil ,hang on in there , worst case I know an Eastern European who is doing dingy trips across should the ferries stop running and you wanna come home

 

[Wattie]

To be fair, I'm not sure even I can claim that you have done that.

But you have argued vividly for this leading to an outcome of biblical nastiness, and advocated that people hunker down. Whether you turn out to be right about that or not, people are bound to be upset about the level of doom you are forecasting, and frustrated if they do not have the capacity to take all the protective steps that you are advocating.

Some people would prefer not to be told that the sky is falling; particularly if there is little that they can do about it.

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I’m never nasty and they don’t have to read the thread.
What I am is pretty forthright with my opinion - and I’m happy to take a lot of flack for it.
I’ll get as good as I give.

 

[Phil H]

Though im probably safer back out in South Sudan lol

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Bl00dy h3ll Loz, it's a while since I was last in MK and I didn't know it was that bad. Do you have many of those guys there?

PH

 

[Wattie]

Looks like we're looking for a major lock down here in France.
Think there will be a major announcement by Macron today.
Certainly going to cost the World massively in lives and financial costs.

Stay safe over there. I’ve heard it’s terrified of garlic so you should be fine.

 

[Delmonte]

Surely if you don’t test, then you don’t know the numbers infected.....or stop the spread as some may not take isolation seriously.
How can you accurately calculate a death rate if the sum of the parts is not known?
An accurate total, may make the death rate even less.......

I’m assuming that some of those that died may have had “ mild corona virus infection” symptoms, that developed into something deadly.

This was my opinion, exactly, on not being able to get tested

 

[philw696]

Isolation it is and as I don't have the same Technology as Wattie but I won't have to worry about buffering.

 

[lozcb]

Ive just started ...I mean heard a rumour there is a strong possibility that all the toilet rolls which were imported from Wuhan have a strong probability that they are heavily infected with Covid 19 , so to all the hoarders enjoy

 

[Wattie]

Isolation it is and as I don't have the same Technology as Wattie but I won't have to worry about buffering.

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[lozcb]

Isolation it is and as I don't have the same Technology as Wattie but I won't have to worry about buffering.

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You sure you can still get them open Phil , or is it just the front cover your reduced to

 

[philw696]

You'd have to be from a certain generation or two to remember the above

 

[lozcb]

You'd have to be from a certain generation or two to remember the above

I was a Heath and Efficiency kind of guy myself ................special subject Reades wives lol

 

[MarkMas]

Isolation it is and as I don't have the same Technology as Wattie but I won't have to worry about buffering.

I don't want to know what you will be buffing.

 

[iainw]

Different strategies are good - how else do we learn what is effective other than testing A or B? Each nation has different infection profile, transportation systems, demographics, geography, social & political constructs and scientific advice. (It's one reason why I like independent nation-states rather than superpowers or 'world government'.) (I also like 'postcode lotteries' as it shows that different approaches are being tried.)

And of course politicians do different things for themselves than for the nation. Personal choice is very different from population-wide decisions, and rightly so (partly just choices, partly, demographics, partly trajectory of a policy). Plus wealth has it's privileges (in the current system) and anything else would be communism (not great so far) or incredible altruism (an unreasonable expectation).

And my expectation is that senior advisors' kids are at school (do you have any evidence otherwise, or is it just a cynical speculation) and their parents are not at bridge club, as per government advice.



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What does that photo represent in your eyes? I think you are arguing for the sake of it personally. Re: evidence otherwise. I have lots - past and present. None of which I will share on here. Most of it has been in the media in the past - schooling choices, healthcare choices etc. Going to Cambridge and having a circle of friends including a cross section amongst elite healthcare, media, law and government gives a strong insight into current goings on.

 

[iainw]

Different strategies are good - how else do we learn what is effective other than testing A or B? Each nation has different infection profile, transportation systems, demographics, geography, social & political constructs and scientific advice. (It's one reason why I like independent nation-states rather than superpowers or 'world government'.) (I also like 'postcode lotteries' as it shows that different approaches are being tried.)

And of course politicians do different things for themselves than for the nation. Personal choice is very different from population-wide decisions, and rightly so (partly just choices, partly, demographics, partly trajectory of a policy). Plus wealth has it's privileges (in the current system) and anything else would be communism (not great so far) or incredible altruism (an unreasonable expectation).

And my expectation is that senior advisors' kids are at school (do you have any evidence otherwise, or is it just a cynical speculation) and their parents are not at bridge club, as per government advice.



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I can guarantee their elderly parents are not mixing socially in large gatherings unnecessarily unless they are seriously ambitious.

 

[allandwf]

Isolation it is and as I don't have the same Technology as Wattie but I won't have to worry about buffering.

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Museum pieces!

 

[iainw]

The actions you have taken are potentially appropriate to your specific circumstances in Australia. You are clearly in a very different financial situation to the many on here and elsewhere. Perhaps spare a thought for those that cannot afford to simply lock down and spend their time buying gold and following the stock market. Most have to continue to provide a living for their family. Spreading hysteria and conspiracy theories, and criticising Government who are trying to manage this crisis for all, not just the financially secure, does not help anybody!!! No matter what you choose to tell yourself

It’s true the most vulnerable in society will suffer from a lockdown unless the fortunate support them. There are lots of shades of grey between defeatist conspiracy theories and trying to limit human loss. There is no doubt it’s incredibly difficult to tread that fine line and the UK is not wired like the southeast Asian counties who got it under Control fast. It will be interesting to see what France and Germany do. As always the UK can probably afford to act a little differently as they are an island- which has helped through many a conflict. I have confidence that’s this linked up healthcare system will support the public much better than most. It’s going to be destructive in the USA for those who cannot afford healthcare.

 

[Wattie]

You'd have to be from a certain generation or two to remember the above

Exactly, where are the Fiestas?

 

[philw696]

Exactly, where are the Fiestas?

Still around but typical build quality.

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