Amy!!
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Andyk
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To true Matt.....a very good way to put it.
Pibbow
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She had a great almost iconic voice but such a mess. We all know what drugs & drink can do so why the **** do people do it! I'm no angel and a pioneer of the dance scene from the late 80's so have been around "recreational drugs" I don't understand why people do it. Have lost a few great friends to that ****.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH rant over.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH rant over.
Drugs are a problem, again growing up, all my friends done them, it never really done anything for me, i never needed them to have a better time, i was bubbly enough when we out so i combined it with alcohol and all of a sudden i was unstoppable.....
Drugs seem to be attractive to people who have other "issues", depression, not confident etc....
Im now very anti drugs after seeing close friends become addicted to coke and they blew everything they had on it....they were succesful city traders earning 80k as a BASIC with 200k bonuses sometimes every year but they lost their jobs and they would come into the restaurant on a fri or sat looking tired and wanted a free meal as they had no money, what a fall.....what fools.....i helped them as much as i could....they now live abroad in ibiza.....good luck!!
Drugs seem to be attractive to people who have other "issues", depression, not confident etc....
Im now very anti drugs after seeing close friends become addicted to coke and they blew everything they had on it....they were succesful city traders earning 80k as a BASIC with 200k bonuses sometimes every year but they lost their jobs and they would come into the restaurant on a fri or sat looking tired and wanted a free meal as they had no money, what a fall.....what fools.....i helped them as much as i could....they now live abroad in ibiza.....good luck!!
I respected them so much peter, we all left uni and i went into the family business and they travelled a bit but after 2 years they became traders
One was in stocks the other hospitality, i was envious, after 2 years work one of them paid the mortgage on his parents house (100k) and got himself the most sought after apartments in north london (winchmore hill the green if you know it) at a cost of 350k back in 2005!
I was earning alright but these 2 were on another level, parties every night, lovely, they were a laugh and everyone wanted to be part of their "click" so i felt honoured to have them as friends that ive known for 10 years....
How quickly that changed, drugs became an eeryday thing and soon they lost it all, looking at these idols now livingback home with thier parents and even they wanted them out as they were a bad influence on younger siblings.....
In the words of the verve......drugs dont work.....they just make you worse.....
One was in stocks the other hospitality, i was envious, after 2 years work one of them paid the mortgage on his parents house (100k) and got himself the most sought after apartments in north london (winchmore hill the green if you know it) at a cost of 350k back in 2005!
I was earning alright but these 2 were on another level, parties every night, lovely, they were a laugh and everyone wanted to be part of their "click" so i felt honoured to have them as friends that ive known for 10 years....
How quickly that changed, drugs became an eeryday thing and soon they lost it all, looking at these idols now livingback home with thier parents and even they wanted them out as they were a bad influence on younger siblings.....
In the words of the verve......drugs dont work.....they just make you worse.....
GransportFan1
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Agree Nick, got what she deserved IMO, what did she expect.
BennyD
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Everyone knows that she had lots of problems and she wasn't my cup of tea either, but Dem apparently knew her and her sudden death has obviously moved him. I am sure most people consider her the authoress of her own misfortune but such vitriolic comments won't be helping Dem come to terms with this event. So, for what it's worth, Dem you have my sympathy.
thanx benny.....she was my sisters friend not mine but did meet her loads of times and as enzo knows i was fan, i was trying to set us up to go to her 3rd album release.....
my sisters are gutted and so am i, but its alright......she had her demons and they won.....
addiction is just that, addiction...its a disease thats hard to shake, the important thing is that she was trying....some dont bother.....
my sisters are gutted and so am i, but its alright......she had her demons and they won.....
addiction is just that, addiction...its a disease thats hard to shake, the important thing is that she was trying....some dont bother.....
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Some people have a pre-disposition to addiction, I know I have. I have mentioned some of the demons I've had on other threads recently, not proud of them, but it gives me an understanding of the difficulties addicts are up against....
A lesser one but for me the hardest I've had to break is smoking! still after 22 years of not smoking I'd say I'm still addicted, I could start up again any time, any long and lonely journey, in the company of other smokers; I'm armed with the knowledge of how much it had damaged my health and I guess it is that that stops me slipping... That and the kicking I know I'd get from Jeanette and the rest of the family!
Loz is hopefully fighting this deamon at the moment and I wish him every success and support...
A lesser one but for me the hardest I've had to break is smoking! still after 22 years of not smoking I'd say I'm still addicted, I could start up again any time, any long and lonely journey, in the company of other smokers; I'm armed with the knowledge of how much it had damaged my health and I guess it is that that stops me slipping... That and the kicking I know I'd get from Jeanette and the rest of the family!
Loz is hopefully fighting this deamon at the moment and I wish him every success and support...
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My sister died of a heroin addiction aged 26 so this rings all too many bells really. All of us gave her every form of support imaginable, I paid off more drug delears than I care to remember and dealt with others as required, but ultimately the inevitable happened.
Saying AW deserved it just shows a total lack of understanding of the issues involved. It's an illness, one you start yourself but some are susceptible and some are not, some bow to peer pressure, others do not. My sister was in a crowd of people in a dead-end town who had nothing to do, nothing to hope for and had had already personal tragedies in her life. That was the beginning, the end followed a stint in prison and the destruction of my whole family's lives really. None of my family will ever be the same again.
Neither of them deserved it.
Saying AW deserved it just shows a total lack of understanding of the issues involved. It's an illness, one you start yourself but some are susceptible and some are not, some bow to peer pressure, others do not. My sister was in a crowd of people in a dead-end town who had nothing to do, nothing to hope for and had had already personal tragedies in her life. That was the beginning, the end followed a stint in prison and the destruction of my whole family's lives really. None of my family will ever be the same again.
Neither of them deserved it.
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Terrible Lewis, sorry to hear of such a close and awful tragedy in your family.
I have a mate who manages a drugs service, some of the stories are both shocking and very unpalatable.
Non-"addicts"......don't quite understand.......the overwhelming need to get your next fix. Try holding your breath for 60 secs...........tell me what its like to want to take another one.....then multiply by 100......got an idea?
Ultimately.....a choice has to be made, a true addiction would be coming off same......and dying as a result, but this doesn't happen. People are very habitual and abhor pain and sacrifice....a very human failing, easy to exploit and hard to understand.
Throwing first stones and all that.
Sorry again Lewis to hear about your sister, may she rest in peace.
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I have a mate who manages a drugs service, some of the stories are both shocking and very unpalatable.
Non-"addicts"......don't quite understand.......the overwhelming need to get your next fix. Try holding your breath for 60 secs...........tell me what its like to want to take another one.....then multiply by 100......got an idea?
Ultimately.....a choice has to be made, a true addiction would be coming off same......and dying as a result, but this doesn't happen. People are very habitual and abhor pain and sacrifice....a very human failing, easy to exploit and hard to understand.
Throwing first stones and all that.
Sorry again Lewis to hear about your sister, may she rest in peace.
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a good point made lewis, thats what i was talking bout.....addiction is a disease, i feel for them as they are troubled and they cant get out of the life they live, sometimes its peers, some its the area, some just have an addictive personality, they get given help but the demons win more than they loose which is a same.........
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Guys, in my humble opinion, and not to lessen or diminish any of the pain and anguish all of these things bring, but it is more psychological than a physical dependence...not true addiction, I come from a long line of male alcohol abusers, its the reason at 13 I made a choice, otherwise I have no doubt I wouldn't be typing this today.
Humans are very weak willed...we all love certain things...some things are good for us, quite a few aren't....and for the 90% who can handle alcohol fine and 10% who can't its truly awful.
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Humans are very weak willed...we all love certain things...some things are good for us, quite a few aren't....and for the 90% who can handle alcohol fine and 10% who can't its truly awful.
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Good points. However, in Lewis's sisters case she thought she had no future and, as a lot of people do, took drugs to escape reality whereas AM had wealth, fame and fortune but chose to do it because it was the hip thing to do. A world of difference IMO, but the result was the same.