3200GT coolant leak after cambelt changed

conaero

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Do you think so Matt? I really doubt that they are that sophisticated, there are two versions as I understand but they are a very crude assembly and all made in China anyway! Look it up on alibaba B2B and you can get to the factory making them; minimum order though.

Well, when I looked into the Alfa part, although it fits I noticed that the Alfa and Maserati parts had different colour plastic mounting frames (brown and black from memory) so I bottled it and bought the Maserati part. They are designed for 2 different cars so its wholly possible that the fan temp kickins are different....like I said, not worth the risk for a tenner.
 

Ian H

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Hi
The hoses were silicon sourced with the 3200 front coolant set from Roose Motorsport.
 

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Well I'm risking it, I'll let you know if there are any issues (when it is running again)...
 

Ian H

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Just got her back from the Indie and she is just running grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!!!!
Everything pretty much done (on initial list anyway) just gotta take her back Monday to regas the a/c now the new rad and filter/dryer is installed.
They fitted the coolant hose set from Roose but we seem to have spare part syndrome. Any idea where these two puppies should have gone?


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They are ~11 mm i.d.

We also struggled to get the front grill out. We removed the top 4 securing screws and tried to gently pull it out of the lower fixing brackets.
Tried medium force and got scared.
Are there more screws to remove first?
Which way does the grill come out - do you lever the top away from the car and pull it up or is there another trick?

P.S.. Temps look great ( at least so far for cruising and long static idle) with Alfa replacement resistor but I will keep an eye on it.
I am off for a blast and will try and keep on the hard stuff and out of the scenery...
Ian
 

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Those two hoses connect between the block and the turbo (one each side) - if I remember correctly the shorter one is on the near side. With all the heat there they are the ones that tend to split first and unfortunately the hardest to replace.
 

Ian H

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Ah better get them put on then
I don't suppose you know part number or which Eurospares diagram they appear on so I can make sure.
Are they best attacked by removing the air filters or attacked from underneath (hopefully not sub frame out !!!)
Many thanks
Ian
 

Ian H

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Ok spotted the hose 17 and 18 on Euro spares drawing 15 - Turbo Blowers and Cooling pipes.
Also sussed out how to remove the grill if anyone else is trying.
Remove 4 screws from top edge (easy)
Pull lower edge away from car firmly starting on one lower corner - there are four attachment brackets which should pop out but be careful because they are only secured by small rivets into the plastic surround.
When out put a blob of grease / oil on so they go back a bit easier.
FYI I had a small pool of rusty water in top centre of the grill - I drilled a couple of very small vertical holes to allow it to drain out which are not visible when fitted.
Got a bit carried away and also took of the lower protective panel under the nose of the car - oh joy more worn out hoses. The story continues ....
Off to the indie with my 'spare' hoses but looks like a bit of a nightmare job
Ian
Ian
 

Ian H

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sorry another question on this
If they are to pull half the car apart to get to the turbo-block cooler hoses, are there other ones (apart from the Roose set) which I should get down while it is all in bits?
If so I may try and get them made locally so we can all benefit from cheaper silicon hoses.
Many thanks
Ian
 

SteveM

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Hi Ian - I think the only other cooling hoses are from back of the water manifold below the intake plenum that go off to the heater.
If you havent changed the oil pressure sender and you have dropped the A/C compressor or have the radiator removed then as a suggestion now might be the time to consider replacing it - particularly if you eratic readings on the gauge.
Just seen on the other site someone is looking to send all their inlet hoses off to Roose to get a set of those made up - I for one will be looking to replace the bottom intercooler connectors replaced as it looks like they are just hanging in there
 

Ian H

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Hi Steve
Have signed up on the dark side for a set but it may of course take some time.
Seem to remember another thread running to try and sort some but not sure it got over the finish line.
We need to be careful because there are two different sets of turbo air hoses depending on whether the vehicle is pre or A S S No. 4783
How do you find out your A S S number? (never thought I would ask that question ....)
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Having taken the lower front tray off I also notice the oil lines to the turbos look pretty shoddy so I think I should add these to the growing list.....

Ian
 

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Don't suppose you want to name and shame the independent that didn't know where the most unreliable & painful to install hoses on a 3200 are located??
 

SteveM

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I think the *** number is the number starting ZAMAA but no doubt someone else will advise if this isn't correct.
I recall now that they sometimes refer to series 1 and series 2 and one of the differences is on the air intake - I have a 2000 car but I think later models and AC's have a pop off valve on each side of the intake Y piece. Two sets would be required I suspect for both series 1 and series 2 but not sure how many hoses common.
In terms of oil pipes I tried to replace one of mine quickly that had split due to mechanical damage and not fatigue. For speed I tried local race circuit to make up hose but discovered that Maserati use metric threads (M16 or M18??) and they would need to be ordered in specially. Fortunately Dave Askew had a spare.
 

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...How do you find out your A S S number?..

This is the A S S embly number,
Not sure where to find this on a 3200, should be on a plate somewhere.
On my QP it is on a plate together with the VIN, on the B pillar on the passenger side.
On my 550 it is on a seperate plate at the front of the engine bay visible once the bonnet is open.
hopefully someone will be along shortly with the location on a 3200.
 

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It is the chassis number....

Sorry to disagree Dem, but the chassis number is not the same as the a s s e m b l y number,
for example, my QP - -> Chassis # 16298, Assembly # 17335, my 550 - - > Chassis # 120821, Assembly # 38309.
 

Ian H

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If I pop the bonnet then right on the front lip, to the left of the catch, is an ID plate.
This has the Zamma number (same as in the access panel in the drivers foot well carpet).
However it also has a 'Parts No. which seems to fit with the expected A S S number for my vehicle.
The Zamma code does also however have a four digit number after all the zeros which could also be the relevant number?
 

Ian H

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man it's a voyage of discovery, but I'm a gluten for punishment.
I spent 18 months rebuilding a vintage biplane with the support of another great forum www.bucker.info and if you got that wrong you fell out the sky rather than just blowin a few hoses ...