101 waxes

fcz360

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I use swissvax onyx, but ive found using a DA and a soft black pad cuts the time down and you use much less of the wax. On the Club Scud forum there is a guy called Dave Z and his valeting is amazing, i have a PDF from him on how to polish the car prior wax and it really works, the fez is glowing - masers covered in mud at the moment tho!!!

Detailingworld is helpful as well - not trying to promote another site Matt, sorry!
 
safrane

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I use warm water as a lubricant as it keeps the clay soft and the water stops it sticking .

The oil is there after to feed the paint and help the wax stick.
 
lofty

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I bought a Swissvax starter pack about 5 years ago containing a mid range wax, it was about £120 I think.The prices have shot up since then (bit like Swiss watches) as it would cost about £200 now.I bought a pot of Best of show last year and have barely used it, I'm waiting for the better weather before I treat the GTS.It is expensive but last for ages, as you apply it very very thinly.I believe the name was changed from Swissol because Zymol took action against them as the names sounded similar, it's a very political in the world of wax so I've read.If anyone is into sealants rather than wax, Zaino is great stuff especially on white or silver cars, I think wax suits dark colours best.I had a guy do a winter protection detail on my car before Christmas, he used mainly Autoglym products, it came up very nicely.
 

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lofty

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CatmanV2 said:
What's the difference between a wax and a sealant, then?

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Both do the same thing i.e help protect the paintwork and bead the water.Wax is normally made of mainly natural products whereas sealants are more synthetic. Sealants will usually last months without re applying whereas wax will usually need doing more regularly. Both work best on well prepped paintwork which is free of swirls etc, for a car covered in swirls something like Autoglym Super Resin Polish is ideal as it masks the swirls and protects the paintwork, or if you spend a bit more time, a glaze can be applied to mask the swirls then a wax put on top.
 
ajb101

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CatmanV2 said:
What's the difference between a wax and a sealant, then?

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I believe wax is a 'type' of sealant. It's my, possibly faulty, understanding that a 'sealant' as specified tends to be a chemical composition whereas waxes tend to be made from largely natural constituents.

I'm probably way off with this, but this is how I've understood it over the years.
 
ajb101

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OK!

So... FINALLY, a clear day to do the car. After 5 hours... I was too knackered and the sun was setting to start on all the other bits, so it was an external only wash and treat.

These are the post wash pictures...

Low Power Jet Wash Rinse
Spray Foamed Initial Wash (Meguires Gold Class)
Low Power Tap Rinse
Two Bucket Method Wash (Meguires Gold Class)
Simoniz Wheel Treatment and Wipe off with Huggies Wet Wipes :) (After these pics)
Simoniz Protective Re-treatment and very low power rinse
Microfibre Drying Towel

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ajb101

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... Then came Step 1 of the Meguires 3-Step Deep Crystal System.

This effectively smelt like a solvent stage, cleaning (small) particulates from the body. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a post Clay step or an instead of... I'd go with clay (at least first) to be honest.

This was the result (I know the pictures aren't really conveying the full story but hey :D)

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ajb101

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After that came... logically, Step 2 - The Polish part.

The pictures, don't really convey the difference, which was subtle, but you could start to see an improvement of the reflectiveness of the paint afterwards.

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ajb101

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The final step was the Carnauba Wax step.

Ideally I would have liked to have done three of these, but, time, energy and sunlight were all dwindling factors in that plan!!

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Finale!
 
ajb101

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Conclusione:

Basically, the wax stage, I don't believe it's a patch on Zymol for final result, however, Zymol did tend to cake up on me quite a lot, leaving lots of dry powder to clean up!

The first two steps are two be done as required in my opinion.

I think I will give the Swissvax setup a go, but the car really needs detailing professionally to get it to a level I can keep it in good order from. I also need to get some other tools...

Machine to do all the work!
That reverse vacuum cleaner thingamebob to blow all the water away from the shuts
Those woolen wheel cleaner things (for when the wheels are refurbished)

I hope this was not too boring for folks :) and sorry about the picture spam :D
 
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2b1ask1

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AJB, I take it when you are saying zymol caked you are referring to the light blue cleaner wax from Halfrauds?, It's not like other polish type products, you actually need a light mist of water to create a secondary haze to get the best out of it. It's a premium product and delivers about 14% wax but at least it is not chemical so what you put on stays on. Nothing like the true glazes though with some of them up to 70% wax!

If it is a glaze that is caking you are massively overloading it, a Maserati size car shouldn't need in total more than a broad bean's worth of wax....
 
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