What a load of shite

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midlifecrisis said:
Only 8 years? Mere youngster, my Makita is around 20 and only just changed the batteries for NiMh from the original NiCads.
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I resisted them for a long time but if I don't need to fire the compressor up then they make sense and reckon they will see me out too.
 
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mowlas said:
Tesla offers UK drivers 6,000 miles free charging!

www.dailymail.co.uk

More misery for Musk! Tesla offers UK drivers 6,000miles free charging

The tech giant has started offering $7,500 (£6,200) discounts on Model 3 and Model Y vehicles delivered this month, fueling concerns the company is facing softening demand.
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I'm not used to being that over stimulated on the internet, pop up adds everywhere in the Brexit news.

Serious, I'm sure this is a sign of likely car discounts across the board as we move through next year. The motor industry never learns, this time round it loses is semiconductor supply chain through covid, turns it back on in a hurry and will likely see a surge in new car production just as demand collapses.
 
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bigbob said:
I'm not used to being that over stimulated on the internet, pop up adds everywhere in the Brexit news.

Serious, I'm sure this is a sign of likely car discounts across the board as we move through next year. The motor industry never learns, this time round it loses is semiconductor supply chain through covid, turns it back on in a hurry and will likely see a surge in new car production just as demand collapses.
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Certainly Autotrader reported softening sales with energy prices and range anxiety combining to slow things down as mentioned in my earlier post https://www.sportsmaserati.com/index.php?threads/what-a-load-of-shite.36435/post-959721

An interesting AA research indicates that for non-company car owners, if you don’t have slow home charging, then EVs can be more expensive to run than diesels:

AA Monthly Ev Recharge Report November2022 | AA

The AA has launched its new monthly AA EV Recharge Report, analysing the pay-as-you-go (PAYG) pricing across all chargepoint speeds available on the public charging network, as well as domestic charging costs.
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Though it’s not overly realistic to compare the most expensive possible electricity option to a diesel car doing 62mpg. Most people won’t regularly charge at the most expensive place they can find (!), and most diesel cars don’t average 62mpg. More realistically, per mile, an EV will cost considerably less than half that of its diesel counterpart.
Over my 25,000 miles of EV use, my E-Tron has cost less than a fifth of its diesel equivalent.
 
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This popped up on my feed the other day - I've long been saying that this is an issue as more EV hit the road ( also perhaps due to company car owners using them and for longer distances?). The through put from a petrol station can be hundreds of cars in an hour from a relatively small footprint, whereas enough EV chargers to service even those in the video would require a lot more banks of them. My next company vehicle will be a hybrid, simply for the BIK but I couldn't go all electric due to the milage and the way I do it.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1218149172389974?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V
 
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sionie1 said:
This popped up on my feed the other day - I've long been saying that this is an issue as more EV hit the road ( also perhaps due to company car owners using them and for longer distances?). The through put from a petrol station can be hundreds of cars in an hour from a relatively small footprint, whereas enough EV chargers to service even those in the video would require a lot more banks of them. My next company vehicle will be a hybrid, simply for the BIK but I couldn't go all electric due to the milage and the way I do it.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1218149172389974?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V
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Christmas get away
 
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Ewan said:
Though it’s not overly realistic to compare the most expensive possible electricity option to a diesel car doing 62mpg. Most people won’t regularly charge at the most expensive place they can find (!), and most diesel cars don’t average 62mpg. More realistically, per mile, an EV will cost considerably less than half that of its diesel counterpart.
Over my 25,000 miles of EV use, my E-Tron has cost less than a fifth of its diesel equivalent.
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Does that figure include depreciation, fuel is never the most expensive part of buying a new car
 
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Wack61 said:
Does that figure include depreciation, fuel is never the most expensive part of buying a new car
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Or depression, from driving something that sounds like a robot vacuum?

Or deprecation, from being mocked while you are taking hours to recharge?

Or...

Just kidding. I understand the why and how on the electric cars. I just am not yet sold on their being the sole solution...

Suppose I could just make this a rant about how all the innovation gets calcified...instead of people trying to invent new technologies, we get locked into updates of existing stuff, it seems.
 
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CatmanV2 said:
Looks more like Christmas stay at South Mimms!
Although that was clearly last week

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It is interesting when you look at the EV network... the further you look outside London the worse the network becomes... rather like mobile networks in the 90s.
 
philw696

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From the Times.
The spark is gone — you’re better off walking than relying on useless, unreliable vehicles and chargers that never work says Giles Coren.

“Since I bought my eco dream car in late 2020, in a deluded Thunbergian frenzy, it has spent more time off the road than on it, beached at the dealership for months at a time on account of innumerable electrical calamities, while I galumph around in the big diesel “courtesy cars” they send me under the terms of the warranty.

But this time I don’t want one. And I don’t want my own car back either. I have asked the guys who sold it to me to sell it again, as soon as it is fixed, to the first mug who walks into the shop. Because I am going back to petrol while there is still time.”

Read more here: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-ive-pulled-the-plug-on-my-electric-car-dwgs9l9hl
 
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philw696 said:
From the Times.
The spark is gone — you’re better off walking than relying on useless, unreliable vehicles and chargers that never work says Giles Coren.

“Since I bought my eco dream car in late 2020, in a deluded Thunbergian frenzy, it has spent more time off the road than on it, beached at the dealership for months at a time on account of innumerable electrical calamities, while I galumph around in the big diesel “courtesy cars” they send me under the terms of the warranty.

But this time I don’t want one. And I don’t want my own car back either. I have asked the guys who sold it to me to sell it again, as soon as it is fixed, to the first mug who walks into the shop. Because I am going back to petrol while there is still time.”

Read more here: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-ive-pulled-the-plug-on-my-electric-car-dwgs9l9hl
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Yes, I read that, Phil. Very well written, although clearly the unreliability of his iPace was as much a factor in his discontent as the charging network.
 
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