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[CatmanV2]

Well woodburners are responsible for 25% of pollution(1), so they should be first...

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(1) Yes, I am aware that this is clearly BS as stated but this is what the BBC was peddling last week.
(2) The website has a far more nuanced, but still slightly nonsensical stat: 'Data from Imperial College shows that 17% of PM2.5s in London now comes from wood-burning.'

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[DLax69]

Well woodburners are responsible for 25% of pollution(1), so they should be first...

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(1) Yes, I am aware that this is clearly BS as stated but this is what the BBC was peddling last week.
(2) The website has a far more nuanced, but still slightly nonsensical stat: 'Data from Imperial College shows that 17% of PM2.5s in London now comes from wood-burning.'

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[CatmanV2]

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Gor, blimey, Mary Poppins!

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[DLax69]

Gor, blimey, Mary Poppins!

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Gotta keep those woodburners CLEAN, my friend! Soot never sleeps!

 

[j s pollo]

Well woodburners are responsible for 25% of pollution(1), so they should be first...

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(1) Yes, I am aware that this is clearly BS as stated but this is what the BBC was peddling last week.
(2) The website has a far more nuanced, but still slightly nonsensical stat: 'Data from Imperial College shows that 17% of PM2.5s in London now comes from wood-burning.'

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Ha ha i like it used my burner for over winter and with the government help of £67 per month i did not pay a gas and electric bill for six months .
Alas now run out of logs had to switch the central heating back on this sucks .

 

[j s pollo]

Gotta keep those woodburners CLEAN, my friend! Soot never sleeps!

Its good for the garden as i have been told.

 

[jasst]

I heard somewhere (down the pub) that wood burners are going to be banned in some inner city areas, and some clean air group wants them banned totally, as i live in the sticks and that is my main source of heating, shall we just say 'it aint going to happen' lol Sorry don't have an official source for this, but I daresay with some digging it could be found.

 

[3hcp]

Add combustion engines to the list of things that won’t get banned!

 

[CatmanV2]

I heard somewhere (down the pub) that wood burners are going to be banned in some inner city areas, and some clean air group wants them banned totally, as i live in the sticks and that is my main source of heating, shall we just say 'it aint going to happen' lol Sorry don't have an official source for this, but I daresay with some digging it could be found.

There are sections of the population advocating the banning of gas stoves as well. There does appear to be a catastrophic failure of ability to assess risk.

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[midlifecrisis]

There are sections of the population advocating the banning of gas stoves as well. There does appear to be a catastrophic failure of ability to assess risk.

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Ban banning things...

 

[DLax69]

There are sections of the population advocating the banning of gas stoves as well. There does appear to be a catastrophic failure of ability to assess risk.

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It's all the rage over here, currently, with the most "enlightened" individuals. My Fisher-Paykal 48" 6 burner with griddle and broiler ain't going anywhere...nor my gas-fired tankless water heater, nor my NG grill...

 

[mowlas]

The one thing you can guarantee under Mayor Khan is that if it can get worse for drivers, it will.

Sadiq Khan considers 'pay-as-you-drive' scheme using Ulez cameras

The London Mayor has faced a backlash over the expansion to Outer London, dragging millions more into the orbit of paying £12.50 a day for using polluting from August.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Not that I’m a DM doom cheerer, but with Mr Khan, he definitely has form. It’s why I immediately signed the petition Adam shared above.

 

[lozcb]

The one thing you can guarantee under Mayor Khan is that if it can get worse for drivers, it will.

Hes only looking out for your kids and your kids kids , all in the name of a leftist utopian dream ............whats wrong with that .....some might consider him far too right wing , almost fascist , I could have sworn when he was answering that committee this week his crossed finger were making a swastika sign

 

[rockits]

Never seen this before. Can't see why Sad Khant would want to reduce cars or traffic. Too much of a cash cow!

Year	LEZ Charge Income	ULEZ Charge Income
2019/20	£1,123,800	£66,056,275
2020/21	£3,792,800	£30,608,750
2021/22	£17,846,200	£93,120,437.50

Fines:

Year	Nbr ULEZ Fines	ULEZ Fine Income	Nbr LEZ Fines	LEZ Fines Income
2019/20	594,916	£41,382,613	39,751	£3,742,566
2020/21	273,311	£16,988,664	24,819	£1,599,157
2021/22	1,010,573	£46,800,826	72,163	£8,278,098

 

[Nibby]

What a nasty bit of work that Khan is.
Because a lot of people understandably don’t want to be £12.50 out of pocket every time they use their car he starts saying that they’re far right thugs. Vile creature that Khan.

 

[CatmanV2]

What a nasty bit of work that Khan is.
Because a lot of people understandably don’t want to be £12.50 out of pocket every time they use their car he starts saying that they’re far right thugs. Vile creature that Khan.

Yes that was a particularly distasteful set of conflations he stated

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[rockits]

The irony is he condemns the car driver but he is happy to keep taking their money when they use the car.

We know that taxing things more doesn't stop it happening. So it is not directly fixing and lowering emissions by any meaningful measurable amount. So is kind of missing the point completely.

Emissions have naturally reduced because people are doing less miles, cars have become lower emitters and people are working from home. That has had more measurable effects than any tax Sad Khant introduces.

 

[j s pollo]

Good news the cockneys are fighting back they are ripping down cameras cutting wires etc
well done to the people of london just keep giving Khan the finger to everything he does better still get rid of the lefty mayor bring back Boris.

 

[Nibby]

I do get the feeling now it’s a case of ‘How far can we take the pi££ in the name of being green’

 

[Nibby]

Good news the cockneys are fighting back they are ripping down cameras cutting wires etc
well done to the people of london just keep giving Khan the finger to everything he does better still get rid of the lefty mayor bring back Boris.

50 years ago London air pollution needed cleaning up and that’s what’s happened. If now someone still does not find that satisfactory the only alternative is for that person to move out of London. It’s not London that needs to change anymore, it’s them.