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all my 911s (only 6 of them!) were very cheap to run but they were all air cooled!
A friend has just bought a lovely FF. Doing his homework, it seem they need new ceramics around 25k miles so I guess that needs to be brought in to the average as that is not a small expense? I plan to have one at some point as it is one of the few cars that really exceeded my expectations vs many (including some Ferraris) that were very disappointing but would hope to avoid replacement during my tenure.
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An FF is one of the few cars that I consider to be a next step or evolution from my Gran Turismo .. in so much as it is a genuine 4 seater GT car ... and I would love one (I am in the minority of thinking it is a great looking car).

But they are only just dropping under 100k and, as you say, require some chunky maintenance ! And so I very much doubt I could make the man maths work - especially as the GT is such a good car.
 
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Guy said:
all my 911s (only 6 of them!) were very cheap to run but they were all air cooled!
A friend has just bought a lovely FF. Doing his homework, it seem they need new ceramics around 25k miles so I guess that needs to be brought in to the average as that is not a small expense? I plan to have one at some point as it is one of the few cars that really exceeded my expectations vs many (including some Ferraris) that were very disappointing but would hope to avoid replacement during my tenure.
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4 of my 911s where air cooled. The most expensive to maintain were the 993 turbos. But the 996 and 997 both needed radiators, coil packs and such like which cost fortunes.

The FF does not require new discs at 25k miles, they should last far, far longer. Unless the car is allowed to have it’s pads run low as the metal scores the discs, or if it is tracked and not cooled properly which causes them to crack. The car uses the same Brembo set-up as many F cars and you will find plenty of very high miles cars with the discs still as new. Oh, they also have an issue with bolts that corrode, same as the Stradale does, but you can stainless replacements and deal with that as an ongoing maintenance issue.

If you do get round to buying an FF, there’s quite a lot to learn as they changed throughout the lifespan and there are some changes post 2014 that make a lot of difference to the way these cars drive. Substantial software updates, equipment changes etc etc.
 
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Hawk13 said:
An FF is one of the few cars that I consider to be a next step or evolution from my Gran Turismo .. in so much as it is a genuine 4 seater GT car ... and I would love one (I am in the minority of thinking it is a great looking car).

But they are only just dropping under 100k and, as you say, require some chunky maintenance ! And so I very much doubt I could make the man maths work - especially as the GT is such a good car.
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I keep looking at FFs as I feel the same and I genuinely believe I could talk the boss into letting me spend that ridiculous amount of money on one at some point, but the possibility of a DCT gearbox repair (£15k-£30k) is just too much to swallow unfortunately..
 
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Goodfella said:
I keep looking at FFs as I feel the same and I genuinely believe I could talk the boss into letting me spend that ridiculous amount of money on one at some point, but the possibility of a DCT gearbox repair (£15k-£30k) is just too much to swallow unfortunately..
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If a gearbox gives in, are we really talking that sort of money? Surely a specialist could rebuild an FF box at a far more palatable number? There’s just no point in having any of the cars we drive if a £30k gearbox repair bill is lurking around the corner!
Thanks for cheering me up! :)
 
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I’m not a fan of the Cheshire Cat grin of the early cars, but most Ferrari V12s are worth a try at some point in their lives. I liked this one I spotted in an inappropriate central London setting a few years back.5C840FB9-A2C0-49D3-BDC2-B7615ABC9028.jpeg
 
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Strad said:
If a gearbox gives in, are we really talking that sort of money? Surely a specialist could rebuild an FF box at a far more palatable number? There’s just no point in having any of the cars we drive if a £30k gearbox repair bill is lurking around the corner!
Thanks for cheering me up! :)
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Well hopefully it’s changed now but apparently only main dealers had the equipment to fix it..

www.ferrarichat.com

FF transmission problems? I am hearing this is an issue...

I have just heard something troubling from a Ferrari tech (second hand). He says the FF shares the same trans as the California and that is has a lot...
www.ferrarichat.com www.ferrarichat.com
 
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Goodfella said:
Well hopefully it’s changed now but apparently only main dealers had the equipment to fix it..

www.ferrarichat.com

FF transmission problems? I am hearing this is an issue...

I have just heard something troubling from a Ferrari tech (second hand). He says the FF shares the same trans as the California and that is has a lot...
www.ferrarichat.com www.ferrarichat.com
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The transmission doesn’t fail but there is a problem with the PTU unit which is a small gearbox that runs the front wheel of the 4wd system. It’s a bit like the Maserati variator problem, or the 911 bore scoring in that it certainly doesn’t affect all cars and naturally, people that have no issue don‘t report that. It’s probably single figure percentages of cars. The problem is a seal which causes oil to get by it and it’s game over. Ferrari used to make it so that you’d have to change the whole unit, at about £25k, but of course you can re-engineer them and Simon Furlonger has done this in the UK. The repair - which remember isn‘t likely to be required - is now about £8k.

Every car has it’s issue. Ferrari have known issues with just about every model, Lamborghini eat expensive clutches, Maserati has it’s problems, my old Volvo went through 4 dpf coolers in 50k miles, diesel Beemer engines have swirl flap problems, Every car has it’s issues.

Get one, look after it, hope for the best and enjoy it!
 
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Goodfella said:
Well hopefully it’s changed now but apparently only main dealers had the equipment to fix it..

www.ferrarichat.com

FF transmission problems? I am hearing this is an issue...

I have just heard something troubling from a Ferrari tech (second hand). He says the FF shares the same trans as the California and that is has a lot...
www.ferrarichat.com www.ferrarichat.com
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We now have the equipment to fix them as Ash is factory trained DCT gearbox specialist.

There are diffetent levels of repair and our prices are naturally less than half that of the main dealers.

Repairs start from £7k

They seam to be failing around the 30k mile mark...just outside the 7 year warranty. Odd that ;)
 
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I've contributed a reply to that PH article to try and balance up actual owner experience vs the collective PH warriors who appear more interested in the interior and clock of the car. I've been on PH for years - from the early days - but the quality of the posts and useful input from actual owners seems to have reduced over the recent past.
 
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conaero said:
We now have the equipment to fix them as Ash is factory trained DCT gearbox specialist.

There are diffetent levels of repair and our prices are naturally less than half that of the main dealers.

Repairs start from £7k

They seam to be failing around the 30k mile mark...just outside the 7 year warranty. Odd that ;)
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Matt, my dear chap that is music to ones ears. Right I’m off to look at FFs again.
 
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outrun said:
The transmission doesn’t fail but there is a problem with the PTU unit which is a small gearbox that runs the front wheel of the 4wd system. It’s a bit like the Maserati variator problem, or the 911 bore scoring in that it certainly doesn’t affect all cars and naturally, people that have no issue don‘t report that. It’s probably single figure percentages of cars. The problem is a seal which causes oil to get by it and it’s game over. Ferrari used to make it so that you’d have to change the whole unit, at about £25k, but of course you can re-engineer them and Simon Furlonger has done this in the UK. The repair - which remember isn‘t likely to be required - is now about £8k.

Every car has it’s issue. Ferrari have known issues with just about every model, Lamborghini eat expensive clutches, Maserati has it’s problems, my old Volvo went through 4 dpf coolers in 50k miles, diesel Beemer engines have swirl flap problems, Every car has it’s issues.

Get one, look after it, hope for the best and enjoy it!
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I assume you’re just talking generally as I haven’t said nor indicated that I think Ferraris or FFs are any more unreliable than anything else? Literally all I said was I couldn’t stomach spending £25-£30K on a possible repair.

Anyway the unlikely £8K repair is fantastic news as it genuinely means I could look at one in a couple of years or so (Need to move house first)..
 
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Hurricane52 said:
I’m not a fan of the Cheshire Cat grin of the early cars, but most Ferrari V12s are worth a try at some point in their lives. I liked this one I spotted in an inappropriate central London setting a few years back.View attachment 82118
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is it the light or a filter but that looks like a Verde colour. DL had one in the showroom a couple of years ago that looked stunning.
 
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Meridien sold an amazing green one a few years ago. It was special order in a Maserati green, that they had to cajole Ferrari into producing. Simply stunning.
 
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Though if you’d just been out in an FF, you’d probably not be in a rush for a Maserati.;)
 
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