Sportsmaserati Forum Project....feedback needed!

[dem maser]

can work but can also be pricey if your putting in 15k and be liable for every mark on it and have it only 1 week a year might not be worth it

 

[Andyk]

Then again.......a Bora.....a Merak.......or this baby.............AndyK...............

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...m=&sspagename=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_500wt_1182






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Ummmmmm....yes that would be a great project...It a bit pricey.

 

[Andyk]

I think that cost will be the main stubbling block....A 40k classic or a very tired 70's/80's car that the forum could turn into a classic modern............I know Matt is not a Biturbo fan but you can buy then for peanuts and then turn it into a car that could see off many a modern car.....Engine transplant, etc....It would be unique and would be great advertising for thr forum......Imagine a Biturbo with a GS engine (God knows if it would fit)...You would have magazines wanting to test and our name would be every where.......Plus every meet/show you would take it to and it would show the power of the forum that such a project could be taken on by people who see each other every other month or so.

 

[conaero]

Andy, I like your thinking, I can see where your coming from now.

 

[GransportFan1]

That is a great idea Andy.

 

[Parisien]

AndyK...interesting.........but not quite what I had in mind.....


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[cowsurgeon]

How about I loan you all my A6 GCS for a week at a time? You could have it for free, if you fill the tank on return...

 

[cowsurgeon]

oh, sorry, just woke up from a very strange dream...thought I'd won the euromillions

 

[Easyplan66]

how about 3-5 owners of the car with it being available to hire by other members which would cover your running costs and maintaince of the car, you may even make a profit. If it went well you could turn it into a car club business

 

[Parisien]

oh, sorry, just woke up

............................back to sleep now CS.....rockabybaby.....................................on the tree top...........................


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[Andyk]

AndyK...interesting.........but not quite what I had in mind.....


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Frank even the Biturbo ont he other thread you posted...Immaculate once finished with a Maserati V8 up front, some modern springs/dampers....Old car modern feel.....

 

[Parisien]

Then again.......a Bora.....a Merak.......or this baby.............AndyK...............

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...m=&sspagename=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_500wt_1182






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HHHhmmmm....I see he has this advertised on this site for 32.5K........but has a buy it now on the ebay site for 29K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C164207/

Anyone tell me the full market value of a good one?


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[conaero]

Ooohhh and check out the Google ad:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/30/

 

[Parisien]

Frank even the Biturbo ont he other thread you posted...Immaculate once finished with a Maserati V8 up front, some modern springs/dampers....Old car modern feel.....

Yes AndyK, can understand doing that to a lesser loved/thought of Maseratis.....if such a thing exists.........but not some of the high end stuff.........


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[Parisien]

Ooohhh and check out the Google ad:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/30/

Didn't see our web link Conaero....must be the computer at works problem!

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[Andyk]

Yes AndyK, can understand doing that to a lesser loved/thought of Maseratis.....if such a thing exists.........but not some of the high end stuff.........


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God, agree Frank...That would be sacrilege

 

[Parisien]

God, agree Frank...That would be sacrilege

Am glad you've genuflected at the hallowed Maserati altar AndyK....


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[Andyk]

I worship there every morning and evening Frank.

 

[Parisien]

I worship there every morning and evening Frank.

Ditto and lunchtime too...

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[Paco]

I like this idea, but I think each shareholder would be required to own a minimum of four "weeks", otherwise the number of owners is impractical. 10% of that time must be considered maintenance time too.

Insurance could be a headache, but not insurmountable.

The age of the car is also a big issue. I love the idea of owning a share in a Bora, but let's face it the aim of this is having something we can enjoy, I would easily rack up 500 miles in a weekend, let's say I get four of those a year as do 11 other forista, the car is suddenly doing Mondeo-man mileage!!!

Mileage limits would deal with this, but then we're saying the aim of the game is to have a car that 12 different parties can polish and go to the pub and back in. If it is an investment - ok, that's different, I'm thinking the aim is get a driving experience we might not otherwise be able to afford.

A modern car however might make more sense, say a Gran Turismo that can easily handle 25k miles a year, bought at say 2 years old and run for 2 years. Let's guess the Maths.

2 year old Gran Turismo with 15k on the clock = £50k = £4200 each to buy.
Sold at 4 years old + 50k miles, 65/70 k miles in total, leggy but not insane. Value? £30k?

Depreciation £1,600 per investor.

Servicing - 4 scheduled services, say £6k in total?
Tyres - 4 sets, £4k?
Extended Warranty - £1500?
Insurance ?????????????????????????
Contingency???

So assuming you can claw back £30k at sale time you're looking at it costing around £2 - 3 k per investor over two years.

Not crazy, when you think that the biggest cost is depreciation.

Do the same maths on a Gran Sport where depreciation is pretty negligible, and some who might be thinking of tying up their cash in a 3200 for high days and holidays might be tempted to stick a third of that cost in a GS share scheme instead.

Posting in a rush so forgive me if this is a bit garbled!