Slow drivers

[c4sman]

Going back to the OP post, I drive in central London several days per week for my sins and I think folk are sticking to 20MPH everywhere as it’s so hard to tell where the limits change. With so many speed cameras in the 20MPH zones one lapse of attention entering a 20 from a 30 can easily land you with 3 points and a fine so those who are wary stick to 20 out of fear and confusion. I kind of sympathise. My mate got done in London at 23mph in an V10 R8 Cab which doesn’t feel like it’s moving under 40mph.

 

[zagatoes30]

After having spent just over 2 weeks in France I was generally impressed in how the majority drove. No lane hogging on the major roads, overtake and straight back in. No waiting for a telegram from the King before pulling into traffic, just see a space and move into it and get up to speed quickly. My only concern was the limited gap between a traffic light turning green and the tw4t behind sounding his horn - especially in Paris

 

[Felonious Crud]

Going back to the OP post, I drive in central London several days per week for my sins and I think folk are sticking to 20MPH everywhere as it’s so hard to tell where the limits change. With so many speed cameras in the 20MPH zones one lapse of attention entering a 20 from a 30 can easily land you with 3 points and a fine so those who are wary stick to 20 out of fear and confusion. I kind of sympathise. My mate got done in London at 23mph in an V10 R8 Cab which doesn’t feel like it’s moving under 40mph.

23 in a 20?? Nooo!! Camera, or actual human plod? I know it was only ever a guideline and probably now not even that, but the limit+10%+3mph principle surely would have given scope for common sense and discretion.

 

[Felonious Crud]

After having spent just over 2 weeks in France I was generally impressed in how the majority drove. No lane hogging on the major roads, overtake and straight back in. No waiting for a telegram from the King before pulling into traffic, just see a space and move into it and get up to speed quickly. My only concern was the limited gap between a traffic light turning green and the tw4t behind sounding his horn - especially in Paris

Paris, though. I mean, just, no.

 

[CatmanV2]

23 in a 20?? Nooo!! Camera, or actual human plod? I know it was only ever a guideline and probably now not even that, but the limit+10%+3mph principle surely would have given scope for common sense and discretion.

C

 

[midlifecrisis]

Paris, though. I mean, just, no.

But is Paris, France?

 

[zagatoes30]

But is Paris, France?

A good point most Frenchies don't think so

 

[c4sman]

23 in a 20?? Nooo!! Camera, or actual human plod? I know it was only ever a guideline and probably now not even that, but the limit+10%+3mph principle surely would have given scope for common sense and discretion.

Camera that I drive past every time I go into London (3 days per week). Really not good as tolerance is minimal

 

[BennyD]

Paris, though. I mean, just, no.

Ah yes Paris, the belly of the beast. I took the Jaaag into Paris earlier this year, and I came to the conclusion that nailing my d!ck to the table would be much more pleasant. We stayed in a hotel about a five minute walk from the Gare de Nord train station. I parked the car in the car park attached to the station. On the day we left (never to return) Sue walked to the hotel and I picked up the car. The drive back took five minutes, correction a hundred and five minutes. Yes, an hour and three quarters to cover 5-600 yards. Traffic lights on opposite sides of junctions that aren’t sequenced; so, as the one you’ve waited 20 minutes to get through goes to green, the one on the other side of the junction goes to red, so the roads on both sides are blocked as well. Then the old four lanes into one just before the lights that never turn green is a particular favourite. Then some CESM will beep you after being stationary for five minutes, presumably to complain I haven’t opened my boot so he can drive through the f*cker. Having driven there I know why the french are so highly strung, but so prone to giving up without a fight. And then there was the Gallic Git that ended up throwing things at my car because I wouldn’t let him through so he could wait behind the car I was stuck behind. As a wise old mate of mine once said “foreigners, they’re all f*cked in the head”. So far I haven’t seen much that proves him wrong.

 

[CatmanV2]

Dear god there are more than the normal number of numpties on the road today. I need a drink!

C

 

[Gazcw]

That won't be the first thing he has taken from the Bish.

 

[jonny]

Ah yes Paris, the belly of the beast

Yep, having driven into central Paris a few times in the last year, it is truly unbelievable how bad the traffic is. And the trottinettes, cyclists, scooters, motor bikes and pedestrians are all awful. Even turning off a main road is a nightmare as all of the above whizz about in both directions on the cycle paths, edge of the road and both sides of your car. Jesus wept we hated the whole driving experience (and as Benny says it takes a ridiculous amount of time to get through some of their bottlenecks). It was bad 15 years ago, now it is desperate. Mon dieu! (Rant over)

 

[philw696]

Having stayed in Paris for two weeks I only go in and out of there on the train and use taxis now far more enjoyable.

 

[2b1ask1]

Had a slow driver incident last evening turning right at a set of lights onto the very busy A12. Old git in front of me 3rd car in cue, me 4th and just over line. Pass to the right overlap but reasonable visibility. The first two go at the later stage of green but the old git didn’t roll forward at all, just sat there… lights go to amber and red and two seconds later I bib him, and at three seconds the A12 go sequence starts! At five seconds he eventually crawls forward and then we have to fight the traffic coming from our left. No problem really except that he felt the need to give me the finger as I pass him, like I was the cause of his awful driving.

Lost for words at that point.

 

[fphil]

Having stayed in Paris for two weeks I only go in and out of there on the train and use taxis now far more enjoyable.
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Nice picture. In Paris now everything is organized so as not to drive your car. Even in mid-August, early on Sunday mornings, you get nervous because of the traffic light schedule and a new one-way street policy that doesn't allow you to easily enter, exit or drive through the city. Even in August, stay away from the mess of the Gare du Nord area.

 

[highlander]

try driving on the A9.........100 miles of average speed cameras on single carriage stretches which most drivers do not understand the meaning of "average". they drive at, if lucky, near 60 between cameras then slam the brakes on as they come to the next camera....wtf! a drive from glasgow to inverness before average speed cameras used to take no more than 2 hours if you knew where the rozzers hung out, now on a good day 3.5 hours...........they havnt even reduced accidents, figures the same as before!

 

[Swedish Paul]

Average speed cameras. Very funny. They exist between Buxton and Macclesfield over the Cat and Fiddle. I reckon most drivers would find it hard to average 50mph in any car….

 

[2b1ask1]

Average speed cameras. Very funny. They exist between Buxton and Macclesfield over the Cat and Fiddle. I reckon most drivers would find it hard to average 50mph in any car….

I concur, trying to average 50 is entertaining, particularly on the climb up from Mac.