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zagatoes30

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Saw one going up the hill at Goodwood many years ago. It was epic Andy. Also saw the ones they used in British Touring Cars but don’t think they had the same engines as the World Touring one.
As above the touring cars were the 2.0 Lampredi straight 4 where as the the DTM car had a multi cam V6 specially designed for it

"Literally, the beating heart of the Alfa Romeo DTM racer was its 2.5-liter V6 engine. As per the regulations, it was based on a production block. That did not stop the Alfa Corse engineers from creating what was effectively a downsized Formula 1 engine. In order to keep the costs down, a limit had been set at 12,000 rpm but the 60-degree V6 would have happily revved well beyond that. At its 1993 debut, the engine produced around 420 hp, which steadily grew to 490 hp by 1996. In addition to being hugely powerful, it was also light, tipping the scales at just 106 kg. Whereas the engine in the production 155 was mounted transversely, the 2.5-liter V6 of the DTM car was placed longitudinally, ahead of the front axle. It was mated to a transverse six-speed, semi-automatic gearbox. Sourced from the Lancia Delta HF Integrale rally car, a four-wheel drive system was fitted. The drive was split between 35 percent to 40 percent to the front and 65 percent to 60 percent to the rear."

More info and photos here alfa-romeo-155-v6-ti-dtm
 

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As above the touring cars were the 2.0 Lampredi straight 4 where as the the DTM car had a multi cam V6 specially designed for it

"Literally, the beating heart of the Alfa Romeo DTM racer was its 2.5-liter V6 engine. As per the regulations, it was based on a production block. That did not stop the Alfa Corse engineers from creating what was effectively a downsized Formula 1 engine. In order to keep the costs down, a limit had been set at 12,000 rpm but the 60-degree V6 would have happily revved well beyond that. At its 1993 debut, the engine produced around 420 hp, which steadily grew to 490 hp by 1996. In addition to being hugely powerful, it was also light, tipping the scales at just 106 kg. Whereas the engine in the production 155 was mounted transversely, the 2.5-liter V6 of the DTM car was placed longitudinally, ahead of the front axle. It was mated to a transverse six-speed, semi-automatic gearbox. Sourced from the Lancia Delta HF Integrale rally car, a four-wheel drive system was fitted. The drive was split between 35 percent to 40 percent to the front and 65 percent to 60 percent to the rear."

More info and photos here alfa-romeo-155-v6-ti-dtm
Lovely bit of kit
 

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As above the touring cars were the 2.0 Lampredi straight 4 where as the the DTM car had a multi cam V6 specially designed for it

"Literally, the beating heart of the Alfa Romeo DTM racer was its 2.5-liter V6 engine. As per the regulations, it was based on a production block. That did not stop the Alfa Corse engineers from creating what was effectively a downsized Formula 1 engine. In order to keep the costs down, a limit had been set at 12,000 rpm but the 60-degree V6 would have happily revved well beyond that. At its 1993 debut, the engine produced around 420 hp, which steadily grew to 490 hp by 1996. In addition to being hugely powerful, it was also light, tipping the scales at just 106 kg. Whereas the engine in the production 155 was mounted transversely, the 2.5-liter V6 of the DTM car was placed longitudinally, ahead of the front axle. It was mated to a transverse six-speed, semi-automatic gearbox. Sourced from the Lancia Delta HF Integrale rally car, a four-wheel drive system was fitted. The drive was split between 35 percent to 40 percent to the front and 65 percent to 60 percent to the rear."

More info and photos here alfa-romeo-155-v6-ti-dtm

You gotta love Alfa Romeo. I would go back if I had to (in fact it was a close call Giulia vs Ghibli)

C
 

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Great soundtrack and footage. Always thought the Dino would probably edge the Aston round those Corniche bends, but personally I'd take the DBS V8 in all it's Bahama Yellow glory. Interesting to watch this clip after yesterday's GP - that section by the harbour down to La Rascasse has changed so much in 50+ years!
 

zagatoes30

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Great soundtrack and footage. Always thought the Dino would probably edge the Aston round those Corniche bends, but personally I'd take the DBS V8 in all it's Bahama Yellow glory. Interesting to watch this clip after yesterday's GP - that section by the harbour down to La Rascasse has changed so much in 50+ years!
The Aston looks a bit of a wallowing old barge in those clips.

Performance wise probably very similar the Aston DBS V8 was just over 300BHP and 1800KGs, the Dino half the weight but with 178BHP. Both had similar 0-60 7.1 secs and 150 & 146 top speeds respectively but as above it would be the Aston for me given the choice and the funds.
 

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The Aston looks a bit of a wallowing old barge in those clips.

Performance wise probably very similar the Aston DBS V8 was just over 300BHP and 1800KGs, the Dino half the weight but with 178BHP. Both had similar 0-60 7.1 secs and 150 & 146 top speeds respectively but as above it would be the Aston for me given the choice and the funds.

The Aston looks a bit of a wallowing old barge in those clips.

Performance wise probably very similar the Aston DBS V8 was just over 300BHP and 1800KGs, the Dino half the weight but with 178BHP. Both had similar 0-60 7.1 secs and 150 & 146 top speeds respectively but as above it would be the Aston for me given the choice and the funds.

The DBS used in the show was a straight six badged up as a V8 as the new V8 engine wasn't ready in time when the car was purchased from AM. Carl Seager of AM's service department was responsible for the car during the entire production and drove it down to the south of France to start the first filming block on 28/5/70...

AM DBS THURSDAY 280570 Carl Seager Ser.Dept to Pinewood to Nice for Monday 010670 by Ian Vaugh...jpg

The Dino (chassis #0810GT) is still in Italy but the current owner has no interest in its TV past...

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zagatoes30

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The DBS used in the show was a straight six badged up as a V8 as the new V8 engine wasn't ready in time when the car was purchased from AM. Carl Seager of AM's service department was responsible for the car during the entire production and drove it down to the south of France to start the first filming block on 28/5/70...

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The Dino (chassis #0810GT) is still in Italy but the current owner has no interest in its TV past...

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I knew the car in the show was only a 6 pot but they were 280BHP and over 200KGs lighter so performance wise probably similar. I actually really like the 6 pot DBS and the Weber spec Vantage option would take it over 300 BHP similar to the V8
 

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The Aston looks a bit of a wallowing old barge in those clips.

Performance wise probably very similar the Aston DBS V8 was just over 300BHP and 1800KGs, the Dino half the weight but with 178BHP. Both had similar 0-60 7.1 secs and 150 & 146 top speeds respectively but as above it would be the Aston for me given the choice and the funds.
I guy from our Alfa club came in his Dino last week. It’s a proper thing, very rare as despite its current value it’s well used, great patina on it, very far away from being pampered. Plus, it’s fitted with a 328 engine, so the engine cover doesn’t close properly! About 100bhp more than the original engine, which he still has, to make it original if it’s ever sold I guess.
Awesome!
 

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Back to the discussion on old Astons - my pal's 1974 V8 recently collected from the Aston Workshop near Durham after some pretty serious fettling. I haven't asked him what the bill was! They've got a showroom full of fantastic stuff and do a lot of overseas work - there was a DB6 in Silver Birch as per Bond in from HK. There's also another showroom next to nice pub where they have other stuff all next to Beamish museum but none of it is open on weekends.
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