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zagatoes30

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Big thumbs up for all the effort you have put in to trying to find the cause of this problem, sterling effort much more than I could or would have done but is now not time to stick it on a flatbed and send it to one of the respected Indies. Their knowledge and skill should identify the problem quickly and then you can decide on the best way forward.
 
jasst

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zagatoes30 said:
Big thumbs up for all the effort you have put in to trying to find the cause of this problem, sterling effort much more than I could or would have done but is now not time to stick it on a flatbed and send it to one of the respected Indies. Their knowledge and skill should identify the problem quickly and then you can decide on the best way forward.
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Yes, your probably right, but I like a challenge, and part of the enjoyment of owning a car for me, is fixing it myself, that said, if FTech were still doing repairs I would probably have shipped it down to them, but I am asking Dan, who was the Master tech down there for his input.
@philw696 Tania said I should speak to Phil, just figured it was you she was talking about.
Anyway, the airport is beckoning, so better clear off before I miss my flight.
 
RobinL

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Enjoy the warmth elsewhere. Fingers crossed it will have fixed itself when you get back!

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jasst

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Been suggested it may have something to do with the variator solenoid, where are they and what do they do?
 
RobinL

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CatmanV2 said:
They vary the valve timing. Seems very unlikely to me.

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Valve timing would not allow gas/oil into the wrong place, which is what you have. And as your compression tests seemed ok then valves and rings seem ok.
A failed oil pump however could do this. If the scavenge side is blowing oil back through pump side (looks like a common drive shaft with seal) it could effectively pressurise everything in reverse?
Cold it may be ok. Hot may not be.
I don't have direct experience of these in/out pumps though (at least not on Maserati)
Note: wouldn't a failed variator solenoid light a CEL?

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jasst

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Have just had a very long conversation with Mike Roberts from the Maserati shed about this today, and he has suggested a course of action to try and diagnose the problem, although it is a new one to him, I think with his expert input I will find a conclusion to this problem, He has a very analytical mind, and has suggested a few procedures to do as a start. Very interestingly, he rates the 3200 as a far superior car to the 4200, in terms of both build quality and reliability! ( that should start the debate going again!)
 
allandwf

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Good you now have a methodical plan of action. It was sounding a bit haphazard at times, and fingers crossed for a speedy and hopefully not too expensive fix. It's an interesting one.
 
Evo Cymru

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jasst said:
Have just had a very long conversation with Mike Roberts from the Maserati shed about this today, and he has suggested a course of action to try and diagnose the problem, although it is a new one to him, I think with his expert input I will find a conclusion to this problem, He has a very analytical mind, and has suggested a few procedures to do as a start. Very interestingly, he rates the 3200 as a far superior car to the 4200, in terms of both build quality and reliability! ( that should start the debate going again!)
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?? Having owned both (and liking both for their different driving experiences) this is absolute nonsense!
 
philw696

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Having worked in the Dealership and driven a Good 3200 GT an absolutely Fantastic car.
But between the two if there was one that had head scratching issues to sort it would be the 3200.
The interior though was certainly a pleasure to be in even if it didn't run.
 
alfatwo

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Evo Cymru said:
?? Having owned both (and liking both for their different driving experiences) this is absolute nonsense!
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Having driven 4200's lots of times and owned a late 3200GT for nearly 9 years

The 4200 CC cars are a lot easer to live with on a everyday basis than a manual 3200, period!

On the other hand for a hooligan week end car, you need to learn how to drive them though, the 3200GT is on another planet!
I used to run mine down to southern Europe regularly, there was nothing to touch it at the time, you could run at 150 or so for 15 minutes at a time though Germany, rock steady and in near silence..

It was and still is a fantastic old Maser!

Dave
 
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alfatwo said:
Having driven 4200's lots of times and owned a late 3200GT for nearly 9 years

The 4200 CC cars are a lot easer to live with on a everyday basis than a manual 3200, period!

On the other hand for a hooligan week end car, you need to learn how to drive them though, the 3200GT is on another planet!
I used to run mine down to southern Europe regularly, there was nothing to touch it at the time, you could run at 150 or so for 15 minutes at a time though Germany, rock steady and in near silence..

It was and still is a fantastic old Maser!

Dave
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What happened after 15 minutes ?

Did a Cel come on ! :lol2::lol:
 
Evo Cymru

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alfatwo said:
Having driven 4200's lots of times and owned a late 3200GT for nearly 9 years

The 4200 CC cars are a lot easer to live with on a everyday basis than a manual 3200, period!

On the other hand for a hooligan week end car, you need to learn how to drive them though, the 3200GT is on another planet!
I used to run mine down to southern Europe regularly, there was nothing to touch it at the time, you could run at 150 or so for 15 minutes at a time though Germany, rock steady and in near silence..

It was and still is a fantastic old Maser!

Dave
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Quite agree Dave though I think the Gransport is pretty special. It was the reliability and build quality part that made me choke on my vino rosso!
 
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