HOW TO change GTS front pads and disks

Felonious Crud

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First thing to note is that this is a simple DIY job. MAF has already provided an in-depth how-to guide for GS, 4200 and 3200 so this post should be read in conjunction with that. I'll primarily focus on the differences between the two.

In terms of parts I've switched the standard disks for Formula Dynamics drop-in replacements. These are slightly lighter than the originals, and are grooved as well as drilled so look good as well. Instead of Maserati pads I've bought EBC Yellow Stuff which are about a quarter of the price and also work better. The only downside is that they don't have the wear warning sensor, but as you can just look and see how much pad is left I don't see that as much of a drawback.

As well as the tools which MAF listed, you'll need:

Hex socket - 10mm
Some good cuss words. I tried ****, ********, **** and "oh, you ******", which all worked quite well

With the wheel removed the first job is to get the old pads out. The process is pretty much the same as per MAF's guide, but the callipers on the GTS also have a central retaining bolt, which you can see below.

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This bolt is fixed by a 10mm headed bolt which screws into a female end on the longer, main bolt. Be careful when removing the rear bolt - the one on my passenger side sheared (this is where the cuss words come in handy). As an interim replacement I've just used a long bolt but will track down a replacement as soon as I can. Although the bolt seems slightly superfluous I'm reluctant to assume it's optional.

With the rear bolt removed the main bolt can be driven out from the rear with a long bolt or thick screwdriver shaft and hammer. Note that it's a tight fit so be gentle but determined with it.

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The pads should now wiggle out, but may need some help with a screwdriver to gently prize them free. On the passenger side one of the pads will also have the wear sensor and wire, which will need to be removed. If you're not replacing OEM pads you'll need to tie the cable out of the way. I used a cable tie.

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The callipers can now be removed. They are held in place by a hex bolt at the top and bottom. These need some determined force, so much so that I was concerned about shearing them, but they eventually came free. I suspect they hadn't been removed since the car was built. Although the original disks were skimmed at around 19k miles, 23k miles ago, they were most likely done in situ.

With the callipers off and propped up on aI learned what was holding the disks on. Which was nothing. They're held in place by the callipers and then held solid by the wheel. Note that I have Formula Dynamics spacers and I needed to remove a bolt to get them to sit flush, so your disks may have a single retaining bolt.

With everything apart take the opportunity to give things a clean before reassembling. I found that to get the pads in it helped to make sure that the pistons were evenly protruding. The default seemed to be that one would be out a long way, which s propped the pads from sliding in easily. It still took some jiggling but overall was fairly easy.

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In terms of performance so far these seem far better. Admittedly the old disks and pads were pretty crappy (see below), but even after only a couple of hundred miles the new ones inspire much more confidence.

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Very clear!
How long did the whole job take out of interest? and if I may how does the price compare to a dealer?
 

StuartW

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Well done Adam, good work & it sounds like they are a very good step up from standard.
 

bigbob

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Result! You can come and do mine later in the year.

Please report back as to how you are getting on with the yellowstuff pads.
 

Felonious Crud

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Very clear!
How long did the whole job take out of interest? and if I may how does the price compare to a dealer?

Probably three to four hours, Dave. Mine took longer because I needed to figure out how it all fitted together and because I needed to make two trips to Halfords and B&Q for extras. A dealer would probably reckon on a couple of hours, so at standard rates a laughable £400 plus VAT, and maybe £2k in parts.
 

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Attaboy Adam, love the cursing, I think anyone attempting home mechanics will have some other suggestions. My personal favourite is you ******* ****!
 

CatmanV2

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I find 'Oh ********' both satisfies most requirements and has the added benefit of feeling nice to say :)

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philw696

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It's certainly nicer working on the cars down here that have not gone through a UK winter.
On my 4,000 post I can say that my hammer draw in my tool box is pretty redundant these days.
 

bigbob

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Probably three to four hours, Dave. Mine took longer because I needed to figure out how it all fitted together and because I needed to make two trips to Halfords and B&Q for extras. A dealer would probably reckon on a couple of hours, so at standard rates a laughable £400 plus VAT, and maybe £2k in parts.

Discs and pads all round on Eurospares are about £2.5k incl VAT. I presume labour at a main dealer would be c4
hours.

PS how did the EPB shoes look?
 

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I've just replaced the rear discs and pads on my GTS. Used yellow stuff pads and thought I'd try the pattern discs off Eurospares. £300 for the discs and £100 for the pads. Look pretty much identical and seem fine so far. No issues with performance or squealing but I guess I need to run them in a little more. As it stands I'd have no qualms doing the same for the front if similar discs become available.

One question about the sensor, I've always changed my discs and pads myself but funnily enough this is the first car with a pad sensor. I just slotted it off the old pad and slotted the sensor back into the same gap on the new pad. Is that correct or am I missing something??
 

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I've just replaced the rear discs and pads on my GTS. Used yellow stuff pads and thought I'd try the pattern discs off Eurospares. £300 for the discs and £100 for the pads. Look pretty much identical and seem fine so far. No issues with performance or squealing but I guess I need to run them in a little more. As it stands I'd have no qualms doing the same for the front if similar discs become available.

One question about the sensor, I've always changed my discs and pads myself but funnily enough this is the first car with a pad sensor. I just slotted it off the old pad and slotted the sensor back into the same gap on the new pad. Is that correct or am I missing something??

That depends on how worn the sensor is. They wear along with the pads, so if yours is worn in any way it will give a warning before the pads are due to be changed. Not worth the hassle for £10 or so.
 

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Good news re pattern rear discs. I asked Eurospares about pattern front discs but they would only say they did not stock them. I knew that already.
 

PJZ

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Haha! Helpful as ever! I'll keep an eye out for a good deal on the fronts. Even the Eurospares cost of £1000 for a genuine set of front discs is a little steep. They don't need doing at the moment but probably will within the next year.

Thanks for the info about the sensor. The olds pads had a fair bit of life in them so I guess it will be fine. The only reason I changed the pads is the because this discs were lipped and the rear of one of the discs was in poor condition. They past the MOT with an advisory that they would need to be done before the next MOT.
 

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Haha! Helpful as ever! I'll keep an eye out for a good deal on the fronts. Even the Eurospares cost of £1000 for a genuine set of front discs is a little steep. They don't need doing at the moment but probably will within the next year.

Thanks for the info about the sensor. The olds pads had a fair bit of life in them so I guess it will be fine. The only reason I changed the pads is the because this discs were lipped and the rear of one of the discs was in poor condition. They past the MOT with an advisory that they would need to be done before the next MOT.

The GTS front disks are bimetallic and as far as I know only Brembo and one other company make them. Brembo will only sell through Maserati. I think the best deal on the fronts is Formula Dynamics. Last time I checked with Eurospares they didn't have any and didn't know when they'd get any. FD just went to their store-room and picked some up!
 

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I have looked into getting replacement discs for the GTS, but to no avail so far. They're dual-cast and every manufacturer I've spoken to so far has said they can't do it. I don't know where FD get their discs from, but clearly it can be done on a relatively small basis.

Maybe I need to spend some more time on this again!