How old is too old for a brand new tyre?

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Wack61 said:
Tyres are classed as new for 5 years then have a 7-10 year lifespan after that.

I cant wait to get the P Zero off my mustang they're terrible when it's cold and damp


Tyre Safety: 5 Year Rule

Tyres are considered to be “new” and fit for retail up to 5 years from the date of production.

This is an industry standard based on the German BRV.

When in use, it is recommended that tyres are replaced when they reach 7 - 10 years old, (6 years in the case of caravans or trailers).
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All good information thanks.
 
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Vince2 said:
Not what I wanted to hear but you're probably right although I shouldn't have to accept the 16 year one surely? Specially as I initially asked for new not new old stock.
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The ony way not to accept the 16 year tyres was to have been present and checked before fitting and driving off. I NEVER leave my cars unattended at tyre fitment and check the dates on new ones before even the acne-ridden Youth Training Scheme guy (YETI) has got a pneumatic gun in his hand. The YETI is always surprised - "everyone just sits in the waiting room while I get on with it" Now guess my reply?

Draw a line under this episode, reflect on what it taught you and dont fall for it again. Move on. Its too late to get your money back.
 
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Some of the guys on the mustang forums have had problems with Pirelli Zero tyres cracking in the treads at only 2 years old
I read this which may be of interest on your 16 dated tyres BUT mustang tyres come from the US so may be different to EU spec tyres so this may not apply 59040
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Vince2 said:
Maybe the way the Americans spell it?
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Nope. Just feels like a convenient excuse to get the customer to bugger off. My fading memory is that people have been complaining about P zeros for rather longer than 3 years as well, although I stand to be corrected!

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A few have had the tyres replaced by pirelli for cracking though so it's not just him
 
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Vince2 said:
Update. Spoke to indi guy yesterday and this morning who had then spoke to Pirelli direct. He says Pirelli tell him last batch they made was 4218 and 2 years before that. So my 4116 tyre was from the early batch and my 4218 was from last batch. I said, 'so all tyres fitted over last couple of years should have those number date codes?' He said, 'well yes i suppose'.
I told him I'm not happy with that but unable to catagorically refute it left him to go away and 'see what he could do' (at least get another 4218 so I get a matching pair.)
Question please.
Can anyone who's bought new Pirelli P Zeros 245/35 ZR 20 ( for front wheel GTS) over last couple of years please have a look at the date code on them and let me know what they are. If Pirelli are telling him the truth, they should all be either 4218 or 4116.
I need to know please.
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Are you UK Based? if so, more to the point would be, what are you doing fitting Pirelli's? I would think 90% of members on here will tell you they are sh**e, and you will improve the handling/ ride no end by going for something else, Like a Michelin. There are loads of threads on here about tire choices.
 
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jasst said:
Are you UK Based? if so, more to the point would be, what are you doing fitting Pirelli's? I would think 90% of members on here will tell you they are sh**e, and you will improve the handling/ ride no end by going for something else, Like a Michelin. There are loads of threads on here about tire choices.
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Yes, UK. I only needed 2 fronts and as they are all Pirelli, I didn't think mixing makes was a good idea. My pockets aren't deep enough to experiment by changing all 4 and haven't found Pirellis too bad for my style of driving.
 
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Navcorr said:
So, the question is now whether you want to change the older tyre and if so who should absorb the cost. Did you ask this question of the indie?
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I was hoping to get confirmation of these being the only 2 production dates (or proof that they manufactured on other dates too) so I can decide what is fair.
 
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In fairness, they aren't going to wear differently, or, for the time they will be on the car under normal driving, degrade much differently, yes maybe if you kept them on the car for 10years. It wouldn't bother me, and I'd just double check next time.
 
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allandwf said:
In fairness, they aren't going to wear differently, or, for the time they will be on the car under normal driving, degrade much differently, yes maybe if you kept them on the car for 10years. It wouldn't bother me, and I'd just double check next time.
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Even if you'd specifically asked for new tyres?
 
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Vince2 said:
Even if you'd specifically asked for new tyres?
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Totally agree you asked for new tyres.
The dates should be fairly close in my opinion.
When I was MOT testing in the UK tyres was something I looked at carefully even knowing its minimum standards and only really valid on the day tested.
I would always advise old tyres and perishing and cracking.
 
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allandwf said:
Yep, can't see an issue really, is it going to affect safety, road holding, or tyre life? Not really.
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I'll only do about 2/3k miles a year so I'll likely still have them in 3 or 4 years. ( I generally don't drive hard).
By that time they'll be 6/7 years old.
Would you feel ok driving it hard at that age? ( I do have the occasional moment of exuberance)
 
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Update.
Indi has a new 1 year old tyre coming in the morning for me. It's the same date code as younger one so matching. I'm very happy :)
Thanks for all your comments, it helped me decide what was realistic.
 
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