EV and advice from any users please!

[CatmanV2]

I wonder if there are any stats that show what the breakdown of a typical person's carbon footprint is. I guess there is somewhere and may well have a poke because I'm pretty sure that most of the driving / flying bit pales into comparison to the kids thing.

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[CatmanV2]

Hmm, so first one I found:



So car and flying is 8+14 = 22%

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[dickygrace]

Hmm, so first one I found:
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So car and flying is 8+14 = 22%

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I did one years ago, very interesting. Where’d you find this?

 

[CatmanV2]

I did one years ago, very interesting. Where’d you find this?

Climate Change – Canterbury Newsroom

Find out about climate change in the Canterbury District and our action as a local authority.

news.canterbury.gov.uk

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[safrane]

I was at Goodwood again this weekend and had the non-joy of using their BP Pulse charging system.

Only half of the chargers there are on the app, so unless you have the correct card to 'tap' you can only use 2 slow chargers with a total of 4 points, or the two fast chargers with the app or debit card.

Unfortunately the only slow chargers were blocked by cars with ICE or fully charged EVs so I had to use the rapid which is a real waste on a hybrid that can't draw much per hour.

But one was blocked by a non charging I3 BMW and the other free one could not reach the point on our car... why are those cables so short.

I did notice after a few hours the BMW leave so quickly jumped over to pop the car onto it.

This is the killer with away from home charging... if EV owners screw each other over then there is little hope for anyone.

When I was leaving today I spoke to an old guy who just bought a new Tesla because of his grandkids future. I asked how many miles do you do in a year, to which he told.me me 'not many...maybe 2k a year...can't see that car ever paying back the additional manufacturer emissions even if he drives to 105 years old!

And how many pensioners are doing the same misguided change for the next generations?

 

[Tallman]

I think the challenge that I still can't get my head around is that this is fine if you have no car and you are deciding to build a new ICE or EV car. Clearly build an EV.

But what if you already have an ICE car. If I go and buy a new EV I'm adding the build and end of life cost to an equation where that may already be 'paid' as it were

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Doesn’t that go for any new car-regardless of whether ICE or EV? At some stage you will replace a car and that is when you make the decision.

 

[CatmanV2]

Doesn’t that go for any new car-regardless of whether ICE or EV? At some stage you will replace a car and that is when you make the decision.

Well only if you buy new, surely? (Which I never have)

Granted the data seems to indicate that we should build new EV's as opposed to New ICE's but I'm not so clear that we should buy new EV's instead of old ICE's. Or, for that matter, old EV's instead of old ICE's

Or, to muddy the waters further not breed.....

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[Wack61]

I've no real interest in an EV unless it was saving me money , well apart from this one E-TRON GT RS , saw one at the weekend , that definitely floats my boat.

But one was blocked by a non charging I3 BMW

This will be a problem of the future unless like tesla the charger starts to withdraw cash from their account if they don't move it once charged.

People don't want to sit in their car and wait and rightly or wrongly range anxiety will have them charging when they don't need to blocking chargers for those that need them

And how many pensioners are doing the same misguided change for the next generations?

Not just pensioners, EV sales will increase rapidly now they're available on motability with zero up front payment, that is a free car or as close as youll ever get.

 

[rockits]

Hmm, so first one I found:
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So car and flying is 8+14 = 22%

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So big eaters and drinkers are the biggest cuplrits?!

 

[rockits]

This will be a problem of the future unless like tesla the charger starts to withdraw cash from their account if they don't move it once charged.

People don't want to sit in their car and wait and rightly or wrongly range anxiety will have them charging when they don't need to blocking chargers for those that need them

That's a great point about penalising people for leaving them longer than they need to. Didn't realise Tesla did that which is a great idea and shows they are thinking fully.

I guess the tricky one is when they park but don't charge at all so you would need some ANPR system or something to stop the abuse of spaces not charging. Or just have a grabber arm that just comes down, grans the car, picks it up and throws it in the recycling skip.

 

[safrane]

Or unlocks it so any kid can nick It!

 

[drellis]

Or unlocks it so any kid can nick It!

Way electric cost is they'll nick the ev for elec to power a house

 

[Wack61]

Way electric cost is they'll nick the ev for elec to power a house

You joke but I believe that is a future plan , cars connected to the grid become storage for the grid with the electricity companies removing a bit to top up the grid when there's high demand and the car battery is fully charged.

 

[CatmanV2]

So big eaters and drinkers are the biggest cuplrits?!

I think being people are the biggest culprits.

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[Zep]

You joke but I believe that is a future plan , cars connected to the grid become storage for the grid with the electricity companies removing a bit to top up the grid when there's high demand and the car battery is fully charged.

It is very much the plan, right now some very large in front of the meter projects are happening to improve resilience with Battery Energy Storage Systems. When there are more EVs they will become a supersize version of this.

To me it’s a positive thing, using one resource for two purposes.

 

[Ebenezer]

Didn't someone say that the car batteries are not suited for storage though..

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[Zep]

Didn't someone say that the car batteries are not suited for storage though..

Eb

If they did, they aren’t well informed because that’s all they do. We aren’t talking about a huge amount of energy per car. Being able to momentarily pause charging is generally enough for fast frequency support. This buys the time to bring on slower response support like pumped storage.

 

[Andyk]

My company doesn’t pay for the charger installation at home but I think you can still get a government grant which will pay 70/80% of the cost. Fuel cards for electric cars they have not got to grips with either. The chargers they are going to put in work can only be used for company cars so that is one way to do it I suppose. As a company car it is an absuloute no brainer as long as you get the range you need. The tax on something like a petrol 3 series was £350, hybrid version was £195 and the electric £0 plus I can get a more expensive electric car due to the government pushing companies to offer them. Range is my only concern as said before.

 

[Wack61]

My company doesn’t pay for the charger installation at home but I think you can still get a government grant which will pay 70/80% of the cost. Fuel cards for electric cars they have not got to grips with either. The chargers they are going to put in work can only be used for company cars so that is one way to do it I suppose. As a company car it is an absuloute no brainer as long as you get the range you need. The tax on something like a petrol 3 series was £350, hybrid version was £195 and the electric £0 plus I can get a more expensive electric car due to the government pushing companies to offer them. Range is my only concern as said before.

The BIK tax saving on a 90k tesla v an RS6 is thousands a year which is how they've sold so many , who'd pick a tesla over an RS6 if the costs were the same.

On a 90k tesla BIK tax is 2%
an RS6 is a bit more

 

[Zep]

The BIK tax saving on a 90k tesla v an RS6 is thousands a year which is how they've sold so many , who'd pick a tesla over an RS6 if the costs were the same.

On a 90k tesla BIK tax is 2%
an RS6 is a bit more View attachment 100955

I would. When I travel for work I don’t need to visit a petrol station every few days and having a big engine is of no use in slow traffic on the M1. Then I can save my fun miles for the car I bought with the savings.

If you do 400 miles a day, I can see issues with charging. 100-150 miles round trip is more than doable with an EV with home charging. Which would fit well with how I go about my business.

As for the environmental benefits, you either believe it or you don’t. I get that, with the proliferation of different info available, it’s possible to make different judgements.