EV and advice from any users please!

tokyomb

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Boffins at Leeds University have done a study that reveal due to the extra weight of a EV they are contributing to the poor state of the UK roads personally as much as I would like it to be true surely the number of Commercial vehicles must be a major problem but then they also pay high road taxes.
Mostly true, though my expedition truck, registered as a private HGV is only £165 per year in road tax - I just can't go anywhere near any clean air zones in it, with a Euro 0 engine.
 

CatmanV2

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Boffins at Leeds University have done a study that reveal due to the extra weight of a EV they are contributing to the poor state of the UK roads personally as much as I would like it to be true surely the number of Commercial vehicles must be a major problem but then they also pay high road taxes.

Specifically it's on non-major routes where they are saying there's an issue. i.e. the ones that aren't built to handle high volumes of commercial vehicles.

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Jamin

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Boffins at Leeds University have done a study that reveal due to the extra weight of a EV they are contributing to the poor state of the UK roads personally as much as I would like it to be true surely the number of Commercial vehicles must be a major problem but then they also pay high road taxes.
Interesting how statistics can be used, considering there are more suv's on the road now a tesla model 3 weighs around 1750 kg which is about the same as a top model audi q3 and considerably less than a Q5, cayenne, touareg etc. The kerb weight of Granturismo is 1955 Kg.
 

CatmanV2

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Interesting how statistics can be used, considering there are more suv's on the road now a tesla model 3 weighs around 1750 kg which is about the same as a top model audi q3 and considerably less than a Q5, cayenne, touareg etc. The kerb weight of Granturismo is 1955 Kg.


I *think* that might be the new GT. The 4.2 seems to come in about 1670Kg.
Perhaps a fairer comparison of the Tuareg to a Volvo EX90? 2818Kg Vs Diesel Tuareg at 2332Kg?

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rhubarbe

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I bought a Megane Asshaker diesel once as a counterpoint to a 3 litre Shogun petrol. I got bored after 60,000 miles and changed it for 996 manual. I never noticed the difference through my bank account.
 

mjheathcote

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Life is too short for boring blacks and grey!
Okay we have only had it a few days, but first impressions.
Audi claim the EV range is 40 miles, however when fully charged (13kwh) the car states 31 miles range. This appears fairly accurate but more testing required.
It actually drives well on full EV mode, you don't think it is under powered.
It's full of gismos, like most these days.
Boot capacity, due to battery pack, is noticeably smaller compared to GTD Golf before.
Nice S Line trim and seats, but the seats are far too high even when lowered to lowest setting, I have headroom at 6'4" okay, but find it difficult to see traffic lights viewing too high through the windscreen.
Very quiet car, not just on EV mode.
When ordered 15 months ago, it was the best of the car options available on the Mrs company car list, but with the options, £40k...WTF!!! No way would we buy one using our own cash.
*** packet early running costs on fuel.
I estimate when charging on regular tariff, there would be little to no difference for the 30 mile EV range compared to 30 miles on petrol.
You aren't going to rapid charge for 30 miles because it can't rapid charge, max charge current 3.6kw, and that would be more expensive than charging at home anyway.
Only saving available is that I've rigged up when charging at home it uses excess solar. This using Home Assistant and a smart plug with the supplied 13 amp plugin charger. This therefore costs 15p per kwh, which we would normally get as export.
Forget about a cheaper overnight tariff because we would loose our generous export rate.
Therfore 30 miles range for approx £2, instead of £4 if using petrol.
It's not really a big saving, and of course journey's will be more that 30 miles too.
We might therefore save a couple of hundred pounds a year by plugging in, it won't be anymore for excess solar is also limited for a third of the year too over winter.
So yes as we all know it's a BIK tax fiddle, with very little fuel saving.
So much easier jumping back into my M140i too, no nanny distractions, no information overload LCD displays, no tugging back on the steering wheel, no odd retard off brake slowing down, you just drive...
 

DLax69

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Okay we have only had it a few days, but first impressions.
Audi claim the EV range is 40 miles, however when fully charged (13kwh) the car states 31 miles range. This appears fairly accurate but more testing required.
It actually drives well on full EV mode, you don't think it is under powered.
It's full of gismos, like most these days.
Boot capacity, due to battery pack, is noticeably smaller compared to GTD Golf before.
Nice S Line trim and seats, but the seats are far too high even when lowered to lowest setting, I have headroom at 6'4" okay, but find it difficult to see traffic lights viewing too high through the windscreen.
Very quiet car, not just on EV mode.
When ordered 15 months ago, it was the best of the car options available on the Mrs company car list, but with the options, £40k...WTF!!! No way would we buy one using our own cash.
*** packet early running costs on fuel.
I estimate when charging on regular tariff, there would be little to no difference for the 30 mile EV range compared to 30 miles on petrol.
You aren't going to rapid charge for 30 miles because it can't rapid charge, max charge current 3.6kw, and that would be more expensive than charging at home anyway.
Only saving available is that I've rigged up when charging at home it uses excess solar. This using Home Assistant and a smart plug with the supplied 13 amp plugin charger. This therefore costs 15p per kwh, which we would normally get as export.
Forget about a cheaper overnight tariff because we would loose our generous export rate.
Therfore 30 miles range for approx £2, instead of £4 if using petrol.
It's not really a big saving, and of course journey's will be more that 30 miles too.
We might therefore save a couple of hundred pounds a year by plugging in, it won't be anymore for excess solar is also limited for a third of the year too over winter.
So yes as we all know it's a BIK tax fiddle, with very little fuel saving.
So much easier jumping back into my M140i too, no nanny distractions, no information overload LCD displays, no tugging back on the steering wheel, no odd retard off brake slowing down, you just drive...
Ugh...30 miles wouldn't even get me from my house to my office.
 

Italiano

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Okay we have only had it a few days, but first impressions.
Audi claim the EV range is 40 miles, however when fully charged (13kwh) the car states 31 miles range. This appears fairly accurate but more testing required.
It actually drives well on full EV mode, you don't think it is under powered.
It's full of gismos, like most these days.
Boot capacity, due to battery pack, is noticeably smaller compared to GTD Golf before.
Nice S Line trim and seats, but the seats are far too high even when lowered to lowest setting, I have headroom at 6'4" okay, but find it difficult to see traffic lights viewing too high through the windscreen.
Very quiet car, not just on EV mode.
When ordered 15 months ago, it was the best of the car options available on the Mrs company car list, but with the options, £40k...WTF!!! No way would we buy one using our own cash.
*** packet early running costs on fuel.
I estimate when charging on regular tariff, there would be little to no difference for the 30 mile EV range compared to 30 miles on petrol.
You aren't going to rapid charge for 30 miles because it can't rapid charge, max charge current 3.6kw, and that would be more expensive than charging at home anyway.
Only saving available is that I've rigged up when charging at home it uses excess solar. This using Home Assistant and a smart plug with the supplied 13 amp plugin charger. This therefore costs 15p per kwh, which we would normally get as export.
Forget about a cheaper overnight tariff because we would loose our generous export rate.
Therfore 30 miles range for approx £2, instead of £4 if using petrol.
It's not really a big saving, and of course journey's will be more that 30 miles too.
We might therefore save a couple of hundred pounds a year by plugging in, it won't be anymore for excess solar is also limited for a third of the year too over winter.
So yes as we all know it's a BIK tax fiddle, with very little fuel saving.
So much easier jumping back into my M140i too, no nanny distractions, no information overload LCD displays, no tugging back on the steering wheel, no odd retard off brake slowing down, you just drive...
:broke:
 

Zep

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Said it for ages, it's a real alternative that's being covered up. GT series motorsport porshe and Audi I believe have been using it and proved very successful.

Think I already had a rant in here over that

It’s not being covered up, it’s has been publicised and promoted for several years.

The issue is that it’s probably going to be expensive, and it will be be for the relatively healed for their fancy cars (e.g. people like us).
 

Italiano

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It’s not being covered up, it’s has been publicised and promoted for several years.

The issue is that it’s probably going to be expensive, and it will be be for the relatively healed for their fancy cars (e.g. people like us).
By jove old bean....... I'm poor as sin, had to get a loan for my baby :worried1: