Energy crisis

[damnawivdaplan]

That part is indeed easy - direct swap out! But I was referring to hooking up the control hub to the boiler…. The hub needs to interact with boiler and turn the hot water and heating on/off etc. The app is pretty intuitive and easy to use.

can be pain as each boiler has a slightly different way of connecting up external controls.

I believe the hive has to have stepdown for the voltage.

what kind of boiler do you have as each brand has there own online control that are easier To fit.

 

[Felonious Crud]

can be pain as each boiler has a slightly different way of connecting up external controls.

I believe the hive has to have stepdown for the voltage.

what kind of boiler do you have as each brand has there own online control that are easier To fit.

Baxi. Pretty simple one. Currently connected to a Nest thingy, which works ok but in general I'm not a big fan of Google things, hence the migration to Apple Home.

The Eve thermostats look good, but don't call for heat, so I'd need to make sure that whatever timers I set on the valves are aligned with when the boiler / heating is actually turned on. Feels clumsy.

 

[2b1ask1]

Do you already have Hive? If so, would it just be a matter of adding sufficient number valves to your radiators. They do a package deal if buy in bulk. Similarly there are bundles for Wiser…

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I went for the Honeywell Home setup, generally extremely happy with it, if there is a bug are it is changing the batteries on the radiator valve heads.

 

[schell70]

That part is indeed easy - direct swap out! But I was referring to hooking up the control hub to the boiler…. The hub needs to interact with boiler and turn the hot water and heating on/off etc. The app is pretty intuitive and easy to use.

For the Wiser you just need to ensure you get the Control box wiring right - especially if you have a 'pump overrun' connection on the boiler. The instructions explain it but you do need a minimal electrical knowledge. The thermostats are a straight swap if you already have TRV's plus they 'call for heat' individually which is a bonus.

 

[mowlas]

To be honest, I’m prepared to DIY with my precious Maser, which is one of the most precious things I own… but not a gas appliance like a boiler (my house is more valuable than my car) )). Also in terms of future support and issues, there will be a boundary between software issues and physical issues to make the whole system work.

However, obviously if you know your stuff then by all means tackle it yourself. All that said, it’s not a big job so I’d prefer to get a pro to do it as it’s not that expensive for a pro to fit.

 

[damnawivdaplan]

I generally only fit combi boiler or stuff that's straight swap out don't like to mess around with slightly more complicated stuff.

 

[midlifecrisis]

Surprised no one has commented on the ofgem energy cap announcement.

Electricity Presently £0.28 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.45

Going up to £0.52 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.46

Gas Presently £0.07 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.27

Going up to £0.15 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.28

Quite shocking

 

[Wattie]

Surprised no one has commented on the ofgem energy cap announcement.

Electricity Presently £0.28 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.45

Going up to £0.52 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.46

Gas Presently £0.07 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.27

Going up to £0.15 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.28

Quite shocking

Bout time to boot out the WEF and negotiate a Ukraine peace deal init.

 

[Felonious Crud]

Surprised no one has commented on the ofgem energy cap announcement.

Electricity Presently £0.28 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.45

Going up to £0.52 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.46

Gas Presently £0.07 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.27

Going up to £0.15 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.28

Quite shocking

That's really not good news. I can easily imagine that many people will be forced to choose between heating their swimming pools or buying a new Gulfstream.

 

[Phil H]

"The cost of living crisis is a price worth paying to oppose Putin"; says the bloke who got his mate to buy him some gold wallpaper.

 

[mowlas]

"The cost of living crisis is a price worth paying to oppose Putin"; says the bloke who got his mate to buy him some gold wallpaper.

Point well made. Also a guy who has been enabling Putin’s minion oligarchs to hide his stolen wealth in and through London until a better political opportunity in the shape of Ukraine came along.

 

[Wattie]

Point well made. Also a guy who has been enabling Putin’s minion oligarchs to hide his stolen wealth in and through London until a better political opportunity in the shape of Ukraine came along.

Seems we’re all slowly waking up to this nonsense…..

 

[bigbob]

Surprised no one has commented on the ofgem energy cap announcement.

Electricity Presently £0.28 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.45

Going up to £0.52 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.46

Gas Presently £0.07 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.27

Going up to £0.15 per kWh Daily standing charge: £0.28

Quite shocking

Keeping us off politics where possible (but hoping other countries would help us if we were invaded), electric cars are no more economical than a good old diesel post 1st October. As a car forum (are we still?) this catches my eye for our context. I reckon a 520d versus whatever the hideous BMW electric thing are both about 20p a mile now.

 

[midlifecrisis]

Keeping us off politics where possible (but hoping other countries would help us if we were invaded), electric cars are no more economical than a good old diesel post 1st October. As a car forum (are we still?) this catches my eye for our context. I reckon a 520d versus whatever the hideous BMW electric thing are both about 20p a mile now.

Good point on that, 52p a kWh will only get you 3miles at most in an Audi Etron. Probably still cheaper than an ICE car.

 

[Wattie]

So -shows the folly of going green for cost savings.
We are all being herded in a particular direction and when we get there it’s gonna be more expensive and far less fun than it is now.
Meanwhile the shepherds will be lording it up on private planes, super yachts and milking us dry.

 

[Zep]

My new overnight rate for car charging is 17p per KWH. Day rate 44p. Fixed for a year.

 

[todd.the.submariner]

Having picked up a Ford Mach-e, I can now join this conversation with some relevant opinion. Though, being in the Northwest US tilts the algebra quite a bit due to our abundant hydropower. Electricity here is only about 13p/kWh. Time for the UK to up their nuclear power game, methinks.

I do have a 9.6kW solar array, grid connected, so that has eliminated my electric bill so far this summer. Come October and the endless seattle grey season that will change.

The car is an absolute thrill to drive about town, with abundant torque, a silent, solid sense to the car. I installed a 220V outlet and mounted a ChargePoint home charging station in the garage, with the cable snaked under the door to the drive where the Mach-e sits. (Has to be kept in its place… it is “the daily”)

275 mile range, though I usually charge before the range gets under 100mi as my daily trips don’t take me far afield.

Haven’t had much of a road trip past one or two counties away - for a longer, windy road drive, I’d take one of the smaller cars anyhow

No complaints about the electric car experience here! Happy to share anything else that may be of use.


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[midlifecrisis]

h. Time for the UK to up their nuclear power game, methinks.

Hinckley C is being built but still 5 years away, Sizewell C has just been signed off so ten years away. Each will supply 3260MW which is around 10% of today's demand. But by the time these are online the some of the other nuclear power stations will be offline. Lots of wind turbines are being built too. All low carbon solutions

 

[todd.the.submariner]

Hinckley C is being built but still 5 years away, Sizewell C has just been signed off so ten years away. Each will supply 3260MW which is around 10% of today's demand. But by the time these are online the some of the other nuclear power stations will be offline. Lots of wind turbines are being built too. All low carbon solutions

Slowly but surely that will turn the ship around. Here in the US, similarly slow, though the recent approval of small modular reactor prototypes is promising


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[Nibby]

"The cost of living crisis is a price worth paying to oppose Putin"; says the bloke who got his mate to buy him some gold wallpaper.

“The cost of living crisis” won’t affect that millionaire fat ponce.