Wattie
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A Central banker speaking the truth? Agreed by trade experts..... who?
So all that money printing in the Eu will fix things?
Jon u ain’t that daft.
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So all that money printing in the Eu will fix things?
Jon u ain’t that daft.
JonW
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Wattie - my answer was simply answering the question that was asked, which was why would Carney say that what Boris said was inaccurate? Answer - because it is...
I know very little about money printing, so am not going to comment.\
However, let me ask you a question: Why would Boris give the impression that he could ensure there were no tariffs or quotas in the event of a “no deal” Brexit, when he knows (or he should know) that this, by law, requires the agreement of the EU? Once upon a time he was the Foreign Secretary, FFS, so he can’t claim to be ill informed...
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What cheese do the French use in a Croque Monsieur?
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I think so too but it seems strange that the French, EU founding member, would use Swiss, non EU member, a product in something that is specifically regional
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What a great idea can this be applied outside of the SM world?
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Jane's boobs almost, sorry feeling a little immature this morning
Wattie
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Jon, I think it’s because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about half the time....and the other half of the time he just lies. Like the rest of Mp’s.
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Oh my goodness... Has **** frozen over?.... Unbelievably, Wattie and I are in total agreement on something!
Can the mods please now close this thread for ever? This deserves immortality...
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During the “blackout” a clear attempt was made to discredit SMDRP that I will be making a simple statement on.
The police turned up at my door amid reports a neighbour had heard a raised voice- basically me shouting “get the feck off my laptop you stupid b1tch , go on get off” followed by several loud crashing sounds and a “Awwww for fecks sake, go on get away, get out”
Apparently they were in fear of my good ladies well being.
I’d like to state for the record that I was chasing our female cat Smudge off my laptop cos she walked over it double typing in the process, ruining my next post, and when I startled her she bolted, knocking over a wine bottle, glass and my dinner in the process.
No pussies were in danger.
The rozzers left, I am innocent, my Oz visa renewal record remains unblemished and I won’t be discussing this anymore.
Me and the Mrs, just after said event.
The police turned up at my door amid reports a neighbour had heard a raised voice- basically me shouting “get the feck off my laptop you stupid b1tch , go on get off” followed by several loud crashing sounds and a “Awwww for fecks sake, go on get away, get out”
Apparently they were in fear of my good ladies well being.
I’d like to state for the record that I was chasing our female cat Smudge off my laptop cos she walked over it double typing in the process, ruining my next post, and when I startled her she bolted, knocking over a wine bottle, glass and my dinner in the process.
No pussies were in danger.
The rozzers left, I am innocent, my Oz visa renewal record remains unblemished and I won’t be discussing this anymore.
Me and the Mrs, just after said event.
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What a difference a break makes eh!
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Ok, a few thoughts.
Mays deal -diabolical but the Eu want to hang us with it. She has right royally sold the UK down the river.....and any new PM without a majority.
If it’s accepted the UK is finished, vassel state, at the Eu’s whim. No voice no deal, legally strangled
Can we all agree on that. Remainers and leavers. Surely none of us want that?
I get the feeling that what’s happening with the Tories now is more about saving the party and not losing an election to Corbyn or any other.. do u feel the same?
I think Johnson is incapable of the job and Hunt whilst more credible as a “remainer” is May Mk II...,,,
It seems to me that the Uk has two options in this scenario regardless of who is Pm.
The Eu won’t renegotiate - fine.
1.the country rallies together around the new PM and takes a stand against the Eu and the unacceptability of the deal. This means leaving on 31/10 regardless, withholding the “divorce bill” and the BOE supports any economic shock with Qe, lower interest rates etc to get us through the shock.
The Eu collapse will be accelerated.
Or
2.we capitulate, revoke “leaving” as that’s far better than Mays deal, swallow our pride and stay in. Rise in alternative “main party” voters and maybe another attempt later.
Thoughts?
Mays deal -diabolical but the Eu want to hang us with it. She has right royally sold the UK down the river.....and any new PM without a majority.
If it’s accepted the UK is finished, vassel state, at the Eu’s whim. No voice no deal, legally strangled
Can we all agree on that. Remainers and leavers. Surely none of us want that?
I get the feeling that what’s happening with the Tories now is more about saving the party and not losing an election to Corbyn or any other.. do u feel the same?
I think Johnson is incapable of the job and Hunt whilst more credible as a “remainer” is May Mk II...,,,
It seems to me that the Uk has two options in this scenario regardless of who is Pm.
The Eu won’t renegotiate - fine.
1.the country rallies together around the new PM and takes a stand against the Eu and the unacceptability of the deal. This means leaving on 31/10 regardless, withholding the “divorce bill” and the BOE supports any economic shock with Qe, lower interest rates etc to get us through the shock.
The Eu collapse will be accelerated.
Or
2.we capitulate, revoke “leaving” as that’s far better than Mays deal, swallow our pride and stay in. Rise in alternative “main party” voters and maybe another attempt later.
Thoughts?
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The issues with May's deal are overblown by those that are desperate for a no-deal exit. They want to ensure that the EU anti-tax avoidance and anti-money laundering measures don't become part of British law. There is no benefit to the EU continuing with the transition period ad-infinitum. It would engender more and more bad feeling if they are seen to be a "bad actor".
None of the other propositions have come up with realistic ways to manage the customs issue, in particular with its application to the Irish border. Those proposing the "alternative measures" acknowledge that there is nothing available off the shelf now and it would take 2-3 years to be able to get something in place.
The advantage of May's deal is that it gives us leverage when negotiating deals for after the transition period. The fact that it can be extended removes the desperation from the UK team doing the negotiation. It does give us a measure of control that "no deal" brings. This is coming from someone that would rather we didn't leave at all.
Yes, the deal does mean us taking from the EU without influence. That's going to be the way going forward anyway. In any deal with the EU post Brexit we will have to ensure that our standards at least match up to the EU ones. That's a given. However with no deal will be forced to take from everyone else as well as the EU. Its the lesser of two evils.
A no deal exit would be much more damaging than people are willing to admit. It would remove any pretence that this is about "taking back control" as trading under WTO type tariffs would cripple exports vs countries with deals with whoever we trade with. Countries would know this and take the opportunity to push for much worse deals than we would ordinarily get.
None of the other propositions have come up with realistic ways to manage the customs issue, in particular with its application to the Irish border. Those proposing the "alternative measures" acknowledge that there is nothing available off the shelf now and it would take 2-3 years to be able to get something in place.
The advantage of May's deal is that it gives us leverage when negotiating deals for after the transition period. The fact that it can be extended removes the desperation from the UK team doing the negotiation. It does give us a measure of control that "no deal" brings. This is coming from someone that would rather we didn't leave at all.
Yes, the deal does mean us taking from the EU without influence. That's going to be the way going forward anyway. In any deal with the EU post Brexit we will have to ensure that our standards at least match up to the EU ones. That's a given. However with no deal will be forced to take from everyone else as well as the EU. Its the lesser of two evils.
A no deal exit would be much more damaging than people are willing to admit. It would remove any pretence that this is about "taking back control" as trading under WTO type tariffs would cripple exports vs countries with deals with whoever we trade with. Countries would know this and take the opportunity to push for much worse deals than we would ordinarily get.
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Teaching home economics?
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Gentlemen
I must as always take issue with some of the points made above.
Especially regarding B00Bs....
I feel the need to promote thigh gap...just seen one marvellous example today at work and it got me thinking....
I must as always take issue with some of the points made above.
Especially regarding B00Bs....
I feel the need to promote thigh gap...just seen one marvellous example today at work and it got me thinking....