Brexit Deal

[GeoffCapes]

I posted this question on Facebook last night and no-one could give me an answer. Particularly those who voted UKIP last time and are now voting Brexit Party this time.

What is the difference between UKIP and the Brexit Party?

 

[MarkMas]

I posted this question on Facebook last night and no-one could give me an answer. Particularly those who voted UKIP last time and are now voting Brexit Party this time.

What is the difference between UKIP and the Brexit Party?

UKIP appeared to be a UK political party, fighting UK and EU elections, but it was really a single-issue pressure group within the Conservative Party, which was tainted by nutcases and racists. It became even more troubled by nutcasery and racism once the referendum was won, because their single issue seemed won but actually wasn't.

The Brexit Party is a political party specific to the EU election, standing on the single issue of seeking Brexit. It will probably then morph into single-issue pressure group within the Conservative Party, tainted by nutcases and racists.

Simples.

I was never willing to vote for UKIP in UK or EU elections, as they were too crazy and vile, but I am prepared to treat the EU elections as a second referendum, and just vote 'Brexit'.

 

[GeoffCapes]

UKIP appeared to be a UK political party, fighting UK and EU elections, but it was really a single-issue pressure group within the Conservative Party, which was tainted by nutcases and racists. It became even more troubled by nutcasery and racism once the referendum was won, because their single issue seemed won but actually wasn't.

The Brexit Party is a political party specific to the EU election, standing on the single issue of seeking Brexit. It will probably then morph into single-issue pressure group within the Conservative Party, tainted by nutcases and racists.

Simples.

I was never willing to vote for UKIP in UK or EU elections, as they were too crazy and vile, but I am prepared to treat the EU elections as a second referendum, and just vote 'Brexit'.

As the same people run the Brexit Party as what ran UKIP before. Won't it morph into the same thing?

According to Farage the other day, Brexit Party will contest the next General Election and win seats!
I'm sure he said the same about UKIP.

 

[2b1ask1]

I have just listened to the BBC (Biased Broadcasting Collaboration) radio news and the stench was appalling.

Headline (1 day before EU elections) British Steel is ‘almost’ insolvent; so not really news as they have been billed out for many years.

Story follows where they reiterate they may have to Close British Steel and cite the cost of Brexit preparation on the company!

So that is not a political story then???

Unbelievable.

 

[MaserCoupe]

Patrick Minford the Brexiteers go to Doyen economist for years has already said as much... To paraphrase him......car manufacturing, coal and steel and farming will be run down and gone so what is the issue.

 

[daverichardson]

erm
oop here in the grim (neglected) norf
The Steel industry died many years ago (I have personal experience) and now only exists (virtually) in S. Wales.
The coal industry died in the 70/80s unnder Mrs T
Lack of investment and not interested in the norf by the MP's
Car manufacturing - where is that again? Nissan assemble not make, Honda are going, not sure about Toyota
North South divide, wider than ever

 

[MarkMas]

...North South divide, wider than ever

We should have taken the opportunity of the refurbishment of the Houses of Parliament to permanently relocate the Government to Manchester to create a better geographical balance.

 

[doodlebug]

We should have taken the opportunity of the refurbishment of the Houses of Parliament to permanently relocate the Government to Manchester to create a better geographical balance.

Good idea. You're welcome to the useless cunch of bunts.

 

[2b1ask1]

We should have taken the opportunity of the refurbishment of the Houses of Parliament to permanently relocate the Government to Manchester to create a better geographical balance.

What with no high speed rail link in place to ride the gravy train???!!!

 

[Wack61]

erm
oop here in the grim (neglected) norf

I'd keep quiet, we went up to Northumberland over Easter, spectacular doesn't begin to cover it , people in the South think they've got everything,if they've never made it past Northampton they have no idea what they're missing out on

 

[Corranga]

Ps re Farage, his flaws are minimal compared with the "deceit and dishonesty" that our current party Mp's have demonstrated- they (remain Mp's) have clearly acted in "self interest' often against the votes of their constituencies. They all voted to enacted A50 and then did everything in their powers to block it...with Mays total incompetence leading the way and providing the ammunition for them to do so- negotiating a deal so bad that no-one in their right mind would accept it!

Political landscape change is the only sure outcome.

I guess that depends on what you think is minimal.


Sure tax avoidance, they all do that right.
Multi millionaire, tick.
In a position to greatly profit from Brexit, probably.
Racist, neo nazi, actual nazi, homophobe. Hmm, this is feeling like a stretch...

This is everything I discovered about >all< of The Brexit Party MEP candidates.

From gay conversion therapy advocates to supporters of paedophilia legalisation, from climate change deniers to rampant tax…

medium.com

 

[allandwf]

Borrowed this.

 

[MaserCoupe]

It’s much easier just to say, sorry people we F**ked up. Sorry for the charade, the lies, the red herrings and the meddling...Sorry we can’t square the circle. Sorry for the red bus, the hype, the unicorns, the unfulfilled promises. Sorry you don’t like the EU. Sorry, sorry, sorry sorry, sorry, sorry... So sorry for tapping into and sowing more seeds of hatred, sorry for tapping into division sorry that we can’t unite, sorry 52%, sorry 48% sorry, sorry sorry. Never mind keep calm and carry on let’s muddle through. Sorry no one can agree on leaving or how to....Sorry sorry sorry. The cars are getting cheaper though eh.

 

[Phil H]

We should have taken the opportunity of the refurbishment of the Houses of Parliament to permanently relocate the Government to Manchester to create a better geographical balance.

Given the collective conduct of Parliament in the last 3 years I suggest Alcatraz would be a better location.

PH

 

[allandwf]

Given the collective conduct of Parliament in the last 3 years I suggest Alcatraz would be a better location.

PH

Perhaps we should have just bricked them all in!

 

[Wattie]

What is the difference between UKIP and the Brexit Party?

17, 399,999 voters I believe.

 

[Wattie]

We should have taken the opportunity of the refurbishment of the Houses of Parliament to permanently relocate the Government to Manchester to create a better geographical balance.

2/3ds of the Parliament should be relocated to Brussells as that is where their loyalties clearly lie.

 

[Wattie]

Ohhh this woman is despicable!

deserving hatred and contempt.
"a despicable crime"
synonyms:
contemptible · loathsome · hateful · detestable · reprehensible · abhorrent · abominable · awful · heinous · beyond the pale · odious · execrable · repellent · repugnant

lies lies lies...... Politicians wonder why they're not trusted....

 

[midlifecrisis]

It's all boll*cks, there's no right and wrong.

No system is ever perfect.

The rich employ accuntants to pay less tax, then blame the system. The poor p!ss away their lives in bookies and reality TV and listen to the lies of a third-rate cancerous Trump admirer with Putin's money.

All government money is wasted on projects that never come to fruition or overspend massively. (you name one government project that delivered on time, on budget!)

Europe isn't perfect, and federation must be challenged from within. Not with childish 'I'm taking my ball home tactics and leaving'. But with proper engagement and challenge the commission/those who want a federal European Union, that's what Thatcher predicted. To throw away trading agreements based on that argument is just spiteful.

MPs are even more self-serving than ever rather than tackling the rise of the fascist right. Even centre right politicians are getting away with 'dodgy language' that they wouldn't have 10 years ago.

It's all very disturbing.

 

[GeoffCapes]

I posted this on Facebook last night and I think it sums up everything that has gone on.

Technically 17.4m wanted to leave based on the info they were given (most of which was false).
However, the British mentality of never admitting you were wrong or mislead (conned) means the 17.4m will say “we knew exactly what we were voting for”.