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MarkMas

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They're now scaling up manufacturing in the UK, and also globally. They expect to be mass vaccinating in the UK by January, with the ability to deliver around 5 million doses per week. He didn't seem to be too worried about the ability of the authorities to deliver these vaccines to the population, noting that it is simple to store and delver, and that the health service already delivers 30-40 million flu jabs per year.

CORRECTION: Actually this bit of what I wrote seems wrong, as the stats say that only 14 million (not 30-40 million) people in the UK were given a flu vaccination last year (I probably mis-heard 14 as 40). So the spring 2021 vaccination programme will be quite challenging but still only 5-10 times bigger than normal flu vaccine programmes.
 

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They’re not going to be vaccinating the whole population though are they? I’d imagine the initial target this winter will be the same people as the flu jab; old and vulnerable.
 

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They’re not going to be vaccinating the whole population though are they? I’d imagine the initial target this winter will be the same people as the flu jab; old and vulnerable.

I'm sure there will need to be increased testing prior to giving it to immune-suppressed patients?
 

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I'm sure there will need to be increased testing prior to giving it to immune-suppressed patients?

If you have a reduced or suppressed immune system a traditional vaccine isn’t much use as your body can’t make the antibodies required. I’d imagine there’s scales to that.
 

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If you have a reduced or suppressed immune system a traditional vaccine isn’t much use as your body can’t make the antibodies required. I’d imagine there’s scales to that.

Fair point; I was coming at it from the question of will it be safe but I take your point onboard. My B-in-L having Jeanette's kidney is on crazy strong, cancer causing, anti-rejection drugs, sadly dialysis now and is significantly immune-suppressed. His eldest is a bus driver and since March, he has only waved at him through the window! They just cannot risk it. It is driving him up the wall. His slot at the Dereford (Plymouth) is in the evening ending at midnight, 3-times a week. He was given that one as there are the least people about!
 

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Fair point; I was coming at it from the question of will it be safe but I take your point onboard. My B-in-L having Jeanette's kidney is on crazy strong, cancer causing, anti-rejection drugs, sadly dialysis now and is significantly immune-suppressed. His eldest is a bus driver and since March, he has only waved at him through the window! They just cannot risk it. It is driving him up the wall. His slot at the Dereford (Plymouth) is in the evening ending at midnight, 3-times a week. He was given that one as there are the least people about!

My niece-in-laws partner was diagnosed with an auto immune disease in March that had attacked his heart and is in a similar boat. Think he’s hardly been out of the house except to go to hospital.

Reading up on it: Vaccines are very safe, side effects are very low and most side effects are an immune response (fever, rash etc) and almost never the disease being vaccinated against (apparently the oral polio vaccine was the exception and the likelihood of that was one in the millions)
 

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anyone notice there's quite a market for warning signs/labels, wipes, masks hand sanitiser etc. just been to euro car spares and they're selling/promoting all the above stuff as well
 

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Is the vaccination a double dunter? I heard you need one, then another shortly after. (Sorry if it's been mentioned in the thread previously.)
 

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Is the vaccination a double dunter? I heard you need one, then another shortly after. (Sorry if it's been mentioned in the thread previously.)

One of them is. Don’t know about the other two.

PS Dunter? Is that a thick munter?
 

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They’re not going to be vaccinating the whole population though are they? I’d imagine the initial target this winter will be the same people as the flu jab; old and vulnerable.

Professor Sir John Bell says that they will have 5m doses per week available from early January and the health service is gearing up to deliver them.
 

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I'm sure there will need to be increased testing prior to giving it to immune-suppressed patients?

Professor Sir John Bell said (a) that there would indeed need to be careful extra testing for people with immune system issues, and (b) that the better route for many such people will be to just give them dose of antibodies (not vaccine), maybe repeated every 4 months.
 

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I guess like the Eskimos have hundreds of words for snow, Glaswegians have hundreds of words for punch.

Some handy Eskaleut vocab:
qanuk: ‘snowflake’
kaneq: ‘frost’
kanevvluk: ‘fine snow’
qanikcaq: ‘snow on ground’
muruaneq: ‘soft deep snow’
nutaryuk: ‘fresh snow’
pirta: ‘blizzard’
qengaruk: ‘snow bank’
 
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