Are you worried yet.

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Oneball

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Been thinking
I know it's bad for me
Lockdowns have not work long term. Circuit breaks will not stop the virus
The virus is still out there
I am of the opinion now that we should go back to 'normal'. If and when hospitals cannot cope then that is a question of doctors and government making priorities as to who to treat.
Herd immunity will eventually kick in and the fittest survive. As for oldies (I am one) I will take every precaution I can. Students and yoof will probably survive anyway. Care homes etc will struggle. Schools will manage.
This may be an unpopular view but I cannot see any other viable alternative.
Tell me and I will change my opinion

The big downside I see to that is it’s not the yoof or students that run the railways, fix the roads, prescribe you antibiotics or control the power stations. Most of the specialist professions are reliant on fat old fokers with diabetes, heart disease and emphysema. The lot I work with are on their last legs as it is. Give them a dose of Covid and we’re all buggered.
 

philw696

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The big downside I see to that is it’s not the yoof or students that run the railways, fix the roads, prescribe you antibiotics or control the power stations. Most of the specialist professions are reliant on fat old fokers with diabetes, heart disease and emphysema. The lot I work with are on their last legs as it is. Give them a dose of Covid and we’re all buggered.
Totally agreed mate and with youngsters today not wanting to go into the Trades if there's lots of rebuilding to be done after this disaster it's the older skilled generation that will be doing it.
That's guaranteed in my opinion.
 

Saigon

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Been thinking
I know it's bad for me
Lockdowns have not work long term. Circuit breaks will not stop the virus
The virus is still out there
I am of the opinion now that we should go back to 'normal'. If and when hospitals cannot cope then that is a question of doctors and government making priorities as to who to treat.
Herd immunity will eventually kick in and the fittest survive. As for oldies (I am one) I will take every precaution I can. Students and yoof will probably survive anyway. Care homes etc will struggle. Schools will manage.
This may be an unpopular view but I cannot see any other viable alternative.
Tell me and I will change my opinion
I believe that your opinion above, is exactly what the powers that be hoped and banked upon since day one. Personally I would like to save as many life’s as possible, if that means reducing the stress on the NHS, if even for a limited period of time, and gaining a breathing space by stopping drunks and other idiots spreading Covid then shutting down pubs and restricting interaction is valid. When you say hospitals won’t cope, that’s true. You obviously don’t have any family or friends working front line already struggling, and are exposed to Covid every day, then go home to their families with a constant fear. All depends on how pretty you are sitting and how far it is away from you, irrespective of age. I think a breathing space is required right now, it’s not going to stop the spread, but asking people to be sensible hasn’t worked. I have read others opinions on here that we are not being strict enough on enforcement, that is 100% true. I say if you are a d1ck head then you should be locked down.
 

CatmanV2

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Personally I would like to save as many life’s as possible,

The problem with this, as far as I can see, is it's an either / or. You either save lives from COVID or you save lives from other stuff. Right now it looks as if lockdowns may be causing more deaths from other causes than they are preventing from COVID. Pick your flavour :(

C
 

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What I don’t understand is the whole world is heading for bankruptcy to control a virus with a 2.3% mortality rate , most of those deaths in people over 80 , why is that , governments can’t abolish death.

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I believe that your opinion above, is exactly what the powers that be hoped and banked upon since day one. Personally I would like to save as many life’s as possible, if that means reducing the stress on the NHS, if even for a limited period of time, and gaining a breathing space by stopping drunks and other idiots spreading Covid then shutting down pubs and restricting interaction is valid. When you say hospitals won’t cope, that’s true. You obviously don’t have any family or friends working front line already struggling, and are exposed to Covid every day, then go home to their families with a constant fear. All depends on how pretty you are sitting and how far it is away from you, irrespective of age. I think a breathing space is required right now, it’s not going to stop the spread, but asking people to be sensible hasn’t worked. I have read others opinions on here that we are not being strict enough on enforcement, that is 100% true. I say if you are a d1ck head then you should be locked down.
Not the case I am afraid and think you presume too much on my circs.
I do indeed have family and friends on the frontline.
I was merely trying to point out what we have done so far has not been a success.
Try something else
No offence intended as you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine
 

Nayf

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Make everyone redundant
Hire them again on 20 per cent lower salary (or worse) and don’t have to pay for an office - win
 

CatmanV2

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Report today that 800 excess deaths have occurred from heart and circulatory disease since the pandemic started in under 65 year olds. Deaths unrelated to COVID.

As of last week something like 400 people under the age of 65 without co-morbidities had died because of COVID

C
 

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And what would that fringe idiot have done to improve the situation? It’s very easy for everyone to voice an opinion on what should be done but being in the hot seat having to make the decisions is very, very different. SAGE are the villains of the piece; they are forever calling for harsher measures but they aren’t, ultimately, answerable. Their jobs aren’t at risk and they will get full pay whatever happens, so it doesn’t matter to them if there is a permanent lockdown. Presently, they are calling for a full lockdown so if there is a major spike under the present 3 tier system, Boris is in the crosshairs. If there isn’t, it doesn’t matter to SAGE because they will say he was lucky. It doesn’t matter who is in power at the moment, it would still be the same therefore, IMO, it isn’t the time for petty political point scoring.
 

GeoffCapes

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I had to suffer Cabot Circus a month or so ago and did pass comment we'll get what we deserve - and we are - very few were following the guidance.
But what is confusing me is the Giro D'Italia Grand Tour bike race - supposedly Italy has only a few cases, yet, to-date, two teams have had to withdraw because of the virus, but no teams had it during the Tour de France and apparently France had a much higher infection rate........

There were a few cases in Le Tour, and those who did withdrew. If a team had 2 or more members with it the whole team had to withdraw.
 

Sam McGoo

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And what would that fringe idiot have done to improve the situation? It’s very easy for everyone to voice an opinion on what should be done but being in the hot seat having to make the decisions is very, very different. SAGE are the villains of the piece; they are forever calling for harsher measures but they aren’t, ultimately, answerable. Their jobs aren’t at risk and they will get full pay whatever happens, so it doesn’t matter to them if there is a permanent lockdown. Presently, they are calling for a full lockdown so if there is a major spike under the present 3 tier system, Boris is in the crosshairs. If there isn’t, it doesn’t matter to SAGE because they will say he was lucky. It doesn’t matter who is in power at the moment, it would still be the same therefore, IMO, it isn’t the time for petty political point scoring.

Totally agree, and not really what this thread is for, as has been said various times.
 
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