Anybody watching Chernobyl on Sky

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Something else a lot of people missed but again excellent viewing is deutschland 86 , full boxset on More 4 , it's German with subtitles but you soon get past that because of how interesting it is , cold war east v west Germany

There's a 2nd series deutschland 89 but I haven't got round to watching that yet
 

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Something else a lot of people missed but again excellent viewing is deutschland 86 , full boxset on More 4 , it's German with subtitles but you soon get past that because of how interesting it is , cold war east v west Germany

There's a 2nd series deutschland 89 but I haven't got round to watching that yet
There's Deutschland 83 too, Deutschland 89 isn't out yet. My Mrs is a German speaker, we had to watch Heimat and Alexanderplatz. With no subbies.....

Another good one at the moment is The Virtues, another Shane Meadows, brilliant and very dark....

Film wise I saw 'Leto' a Russian film about Viktor Tsoi, regarded as the the Soviet John Lennon, with his band Kino. Half Russian, half Korean, was killed in a car accident near Riga 1989.

Musically, his stuff was excellent, check out Kukushka (Cuckoo) and 'I Declare my Home a Nuclear free Zone'.....
 

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Alpha particles are worse for you but they cannot penetrate the skin, they will not penetrate paper. Therefore are only harmful if injested or injected and end up inside you
Gammas on the other hand fire straight through you damaging your cells on the way, that's why your personal monitors record gamma

It was an overdose of gamma radiation that turned David Banner into the Incredible Hulk. Sounds nasty and worth avoiding.

I did a labouring stint at Bradwell Nuclear Power Station way back, building seismic walls to strengthen some of the infrastructure and retaining walls in case any areas needed isolating and flooding. The Health and Safety precautions and training were somewhat rudimentary. Looking back, I'm glad I didn't spend long there, but I wish I'd been able to take a picture of the turbine room, which was vast and incredible.
 

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although I remember all this that was a real eye opener and great bit of film making, reminds me of the Russian kursk sub sinking and the Russians playing it down and refusing any help from other countries wasting precious time and the possibility of saving 23 crew members had they accepted help immediately
 

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I haven’t seen this but will try to view.
Wonder what’s being covered up at Fukashima.....

Not sure if it's as much covered up as it is forgotten about. There is a series on Netflix called "the dark tourist". One episode he visits the exclusion zone on a "nuclear tourist tour" definitely worth a watch... Thr situation there is worse than Chernobyl however it is very easily accessible

There are also the nuclear weapons testing sites in the South Pacific which are also a ticking time bomb with raising sea levels making the contamination seep out into the ocean... There are a few documentaries on YouTube about this
 

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read the below extract, navy advises Putin "all under control" sound familiar, obviously learnt nothing from Chernobyl

Rescue attempts[edit]

Though the British and Norwegian navies offered assistance, Russia initially refused all help.[16] All 118 sailors and officers aboard Kursk died. The Russian Admiralty initially told the public that the majority of the crew died within minutes of the explosion, but on 21 August, Norwegian and Russian divers found 24 bodies in the ninth compartment, the turbine room at the stern of the boat. Captain-lieutenant Dmitri Kolesnikov wrote a note listing the names of 23 sailors who were alive in the compartment after the ship sank.
Kursk carried a potassium superoxide cartridge of a chemical oxygen generator, used to absorb carbon dioxide and chemically release oxygen during an emergency. However, the cartridge became contaminated with sea water and the resulting chemical reaction caused a flash fire which consumed the available oxygen. The investigation showed that some men temporarily survived the fire by plunging under water, as fire marks on the bulkheads indicated the water was at waist level at the time. Ultimately, the remaining crew burned to death or suffocated.[17]
Russian President Vladimir Putin, though immediately informed of the tragedy, was told by the navy that they had the situation under control and rescue was imminent. He waited five days before he ended his holiday at a presidential resort in Sochi on the Black Sea. Only four months into his tenure as President, the public and media were extremely critical of Putin's decision to remain at a seaside resort, and his highly favourable ratings dropped dramatically.[18] The President's response appeared callous and the government's actions looked incompetent.[19] A year later he said, "I probably should have returned to Moscow, but nothing would have changed. I had the same level of communication both in Sochi and in Moscow, but from a PR point of view I could have demonstrated some special eagerness to return."[20]
 

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Not sure if it's as much covered up as it is forgotten about. There is a series on Netflix called "the dark tourist". One episode he visits the exclusion zone on a "nuclear tourist tour" definitely worth a watch... Thr situation there is worse than Chernobyl however it is very easily accessible

What makes you think it's worse? The last analysis I read (independent) was that in the grand scheme of things Fukushima was more of a (media) storm in a teacup.

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What makes you think it's worse? The last analysis I read (independent) was that in the grand scheme of things Fukushima was more of a (media) storm in a teacup.

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ive read the seepage into the ocean is horrendous..,, zerohedge Fukashima makes horrendous reading.
 

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ive read the seepage into the ocean is horrendous..,, zerohedge Fukashima makes horrendous reading.

I shall have a read, but immediate impression isn't of an exactly un-biased news source, somewhat re-inforced by the Wikipedia entry and the sensationalist headine with that Fukushima article.

Not saying it's not true, but stylistically they appear to have an angenda....

<edit>
The article in question has a byline from an author at Counterpunch:
CounterPunch is a magazine published six times per year[1] in the United States that covers politics in a manner its editors describe as "muckrakingwith a radical attitude"
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although I remember all this that was a real eye opener and great bit of film making, reminds me of the Russian kursk sub sinking and the Russians playing it down and refusing any help from other countries wasting precious time and the possibility of saving 23 crew members had they accepted help immediately
There is a film about the Kursk out now..l
 

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Not sure if it's as much covered up as it is forgotten about. There is a series on Netflix called "the dark tourist". One episode he visits the exclusion zone on a "nuclear tourist tour" definitely worth a watch... Thr situation there is worse than Chernobyl however it is very easily accessible

There are also the nuclear weapons testing sites in the South Pacific which are also a ticking time bomb with raising sea levels making the contamination seep out into the ocean... There are a few documentaries on YouTube about this
Also the Mayak nuclear plant explosion, in the Urals. Even now the Tyecha river is not to be fished.
 

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What makes you think it's worse? The last analysis I read (independent) was that in the grand scheme of things Fukushima was more of a (media) storm in a teacup.

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In terms of a public health hazard it seems too easily accessible and comparibly the background radiation is much higher Chernobyl which is almost totally inaccessible unless on a tour.

Although the travel documentary i watched may have over dramatized it... The Japanese government has since called them out on it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ne...e/news-story/a94ac5b405b8607aa11490c7fed0a2f3
 

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Looks like they nailed the casting for Chernobyl
 

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Another film to see, about the Kyshtym disaster at Ozhyorsk (pron. AzYORsk), aka Chelyabinsk-40 and Chelyabinsk-65 called City-40. In Russian but easy to follow.


I've been to Chelyabinsk, the current partner is from there, aka Tankograd, they made T-34's there during WW2 or The Great Patriotic War as they call it. That's another Russian film, T-34, it's terrible....


Pity, there's been a batch of cracking Russian films about Gagarin, the Siege of Leningrad, Salyut 7 almost-disaster, Alexei Leonov, first man to walk in space and for course Leto, about Viktor Tsoi the Soviet Lennon...