Am i so wrong or sensitive, or?
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Nikos,
Do you have any friends or family in Australia?
Melbourne has the highest Greek population behind Athens, but I suspect most are now the Australian born Greeks from previous generations of Greeks.
We have the great climate, work is ticking along nicely (particularly compared to Greece), and Australians are about as laid back as a nation can get.
Certainly a lot further away from Austria, but Melbourne has again won the "most livable city" award.
Best of all, we don't put salt on the roads!
Stephen
Do you have any friends or family in Australia?
Melbourne has the highest Greek population behind Athens, but I suspect most are now the Australian born Greeks from previous generations of Greeks.
We have the great climate, work is ticking along nicely (particularly compared to Greece), and Australians are about as laid back as a nation can get.
Certainly a lot further away from Austria, but Melbourne has again won the "most livable city" award.
Best of all, we don't put salt on the roads!
Stephen
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Bud, i hear you.
i feel the Same about the UK,... the girls not so....... as im happily married and not looking for anyone or anything of any of the ladies.
but re emigration.. Do you home work, the grass is not always greener on the other side its just the way the sun hits it... that saying.. i am looking at moving out of this country as im sick to death of the ******** we have to put up with in order to make a living.
im also in a similar position to you, as my work is not dependent on where i live.
Ive been looking to leaving for a few years now and the country's ive decided work out best for me are as follows :-
Germany,, Good economic status, repeated growth in all aspects of the country, a fair wage for a fair days work, good educational standings, and a stunning country to live in.
Italy,,, this is an odd ball as we know the country is in economic decline, and my reasons are purely selfish for wanting to move there.
NZ (New Zealand) and Australia close to the standard of Germany.
but with each "GOOD" reason to move to said country's there is also not so "Good" reasons. eg the taxation in Germany is close that that of the UK's
So make sure you do your home work, leave room to reverse your decision at any time, and try an variety of things/places before you completely settle down.
i feel the Same about the UK,... the girls not so....... as im happily married and not looking for anyone or anything of any of the ladies.
but re emigration.. Do you home work, the grass is not always greener on the other side its just the way the sun hits it... that saying.. i am looking at moving out of this country as im sick to death of the ******** we have to put up with in order to make a living.
im also in a similar position to you, as my work is not dependent on where i live.
Ive been looking to leaving for a few years now and the country's ive decided work out best for me are as follows :-
Germany,, Good economic status, repeated growth in all aspects of the country, a fair wage for a fair days work, good educational standings, and a stunning country to live in.
Italy,,, this is an odd ball as we know the country is in economic decline, and my reasons are purely selfish for wanting to move there.
NZ (New Zealand) and Australia close to the standard of Germany.
but with each "GOOD" reason to move to said country's there is also not so "Good" reasons. eg the taxation in Germany is close that that of the UK's
So make sure you do your home work, leave room to reverse your decision at any time, and try an variety of things/places before you completely settle down.
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Yep Renault correct again??
I was thinking about a QP to replace my XJR, but when I drove one some tears ago, they were just not as fast as the Jag. Now we have 4x4's, I don't really need a saloon for me, so something a shade smaller will be a change. I liked the AC when we got it and still do, so I fancy having a crack at a Maser myself and be able to have a cigar whenever I want.
I was thinking about a QP to replace my XJR, but when I drove one some tears ago, they were just not as fast as the Jag. Now we have 4x4's, I don't really need a saloon for me, so something a shade smaller will be a change. I liked the AC when we got it and still do, so I fancy having a crack at a Maser myself and be able to have a cigar whenever I want.
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so.........Dem.........your thinking she might like to drive something greek
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Yep I do get it Nikos.....Its a rough situation..Just wanted to put a bit of light on your predicament....Hope all goes your way soon.
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As said above, life is too short for what if's, go for it!
Whether it's Austria or Australia you'll still find the process hard initially, as you will be starting from square 1 with everything. Chatting to mates of mine that have moved to Australia and New Zealand they tell me that you have to embrace the challenge of making new friends, building up your professional reputation again and finding a home (different to just finding somewhere to live). And whilst it's not easy and doesn't happen over night, like all things that take a bit of effort, they're very rewarding in the end.
3 of my friends stories:
1. In the UK, ex-army lorry driver. Lived in a 2 bed terrace house in Portsmouth. No family. Went to New Zealand with his girlfriend.
Moved to New Zealand 8 years ago, retrained in IT lives in a 4 bed detached bungalow with Orange trees in the garden. Drives a little sports car and a 4x4 pick up truck. Goes diving and fishing from his own boat, with his son. I've been to visit him once.
2. In the UK, ex-army electrician, owned his own electrical pumping company, married with 2 kids, lived in a 4 bed semi-detached in a village in Essex.
Moved to Australia 5 years ago, had to retrain as an electrician to get their qualifications, found it hard working for someone else, ended installing solar panels on various tropical islands, has settled in Brisbane and has now bought a house with a pool which is close enough to the beach that him and his son can carry their surf boards there. No has his own company again. I've promised to visit, but never have, yet.
3. In the UK, ex-army electrician, married with two kids, lived in the same town that he went to school in with his mother just around the corner.
Moved to Australia 6 years ago, initially went to Perth and then moved to Brisbane as he didn't feel happy there. Now has a nice big house with a few cars and seems happy, although I've now lost touch with him.
Whilst there seems to be a common theme of being ex-army don't read too much into that as a lot of my friends are. Although I suppose that you could suggest that because they are ex-army, failiure was not an option and they made it happen..?
Conversely my office manager here at work moved to Australia 6 or 7 years ago and was back in the UK within 6 weeks!
Good luck with whatever you choose, but then like most us here I'm sure you believe in making your own luck.
Whether it's Austria or Australia you'll still find the process hard initially, as you will be starting from square 1 with everything. Chatting to mates of mine that have moved to Australia and New Zealand they tell me that you have to embrace the challenge of making new friends, building up your professional reputation again and finding a home (different to just finding somewhere to live). And whilst it's not easy and doesn't happen over night, like all things that take a bit of effort, they're very rewarding in the end.
3 of my friends stories:
1. In the UK, ex-army lorry driver. Lived in a 2 bed terrace house in Portsmouth. No family. Went to New Zealand with his girlfriend.
Moved to New Zealand 8 years ago, retrained in IT lives in a 4 bed detached bungalow with Orange trees in the garden. Drives a little sports car and a 4x4 pick up truck. Goes diving and fishing from his own boat, with his son. I've been to visit him once.
2. In the UK, ex-army electrician, owned his own electrical pumping company, married with 2 kids, lived in a 4 bed semi-detached in a village in Essex.
Moved to Australia 5 years ago, had to retrain as an electrician to get their qualifications, found it hard working for someone else, ended installing solar panels on various tropical islands, has settled in Brisbane and has now bought a house with a pool which is close enough to the beach that him and his son can carry their surf boards there. No has his own company again. I've promised to visit, but never have, yet.
3. In the UK, ex-army electrician, married with two kids, lived in the same town that he went to school in with his mother just around the corner.
Moved to Australia 6 years ago, initially went to Perth and then moved to Brisbane as he didn't feel happy there. Now has a nice big house with a few cars and seems happy, although I've now lost touch with him.
Whilst there seems to be a common theme of being ex-army don't read too much into that as a lot of my friends are. Although I suppose that you could suggest that because they are ex-army, failiure was not an option and they made it happen..?
Conversely my office manager here at work moved to Australia 6 or 7 years ago and was back in the UK within 6 weeks!
Good luck with whatever you choose, but then like most us here I'm sure you believe in making your own luck.
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Nikos,
Don't be too down about being a free spirit... There is a lot to be said for following your own rules without baggage; some people are just not meant to be tied down!
I can't offyou any advice on a personal level being married over 26 years and in the same house for 23 but I'm looking to move in the next couple of years as I'm also fed up of our situation.
I would suggest spending a good few months 'going loco' wherever you decide to go to before taking the plunge and moving permenantly. I have to say Northern Italy/Monaco area appeals to me and of course Monaco is a tax haven if you can cut it there. Construction companies are also hard to find....
Don't be too down about being a free spirit... There is a lot to be said for following your own rules without baggage; some people are just not meant to be tied down!
I can't offyou any advice on a personal level being married over 26 years and in the same house for 23 but I'm looking to move in the next couple of years as I'm also fed up of our situation.
I would suggest spending a good few months 'going loco' wherever you decide to go to before taking the plunge and moving permenantly. I have to say Northern Italy/Monaco area appeals to me and of course Monaco is a tax haven if you can cut it there. Construction companies are also hard to find....
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Too true, I am guilty of that!
Half my friends moved out to Aus in the early 2000's
One has now split with his wife and I believe she has returned although he has 'moved on' shall we say and loves it.
Another married a Aus woman, and is happy as a pig in ****
His brother and wife are going out later next year too to live.
And a girl I knew who is dual national Eng/Aus, went back and has never looked back.
2 of my 3 cousins are also out there and we wont see them again.
I have also considered it and if it were not for my wife, I think I would have gone too.
I have a feeling if I had not met Rachel when I did, and been single in about 2003, I would have been out there for sure, maybe one day I will, but I also have a very strong love for France. David (Corvette) and I are going out to Loire in 2 weeks time to view some farmhouses with a view to purchase as a rental/holiday/retirement home. Hopefully that will scratch my itch for a living abroad.
When I was growing up, I never for one moment thought I would spend all my days living in England, I have always had the desire for warmer climates, as for those who have me will know that I have blood from further afield.
I strongly believe there is only one life and you should live it. If you not happy, change, sometimes you have to be selfish.