Your average new QP buyer isn't bothered by fuel prices as like you guys said, its not a major commitment compared to the overall cost of ownership. However look at recent 7 series buyers, totally different demographic. Typically 5k down(which took 3 years to save) and then a budget of £500 per month. The running costs of such cars need to fit into a price window otherwise sales would crash. Look at late model 7 series as an example, must be 95% 730D's out there.
>2004 QP values - where will they go?
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Well, I can't quite believe that two months on from this thread I find some sort of answer to the OP question.
The QP has gone
25 watchers on Ebay
Some p/x offers but not realistic
No viewings after nearly three weeks.
I am a Merc fan and recently had a feeling i would go back to the brand with a new car. easy i thought, i'll p/x the QP and they will want to do a deal. 12 garages couldn't get a underwriting bid. One did at £13,000. Then Sytner stepped up with a deal amounting to £19,000 because i was buying a £48k car from them ......
Hard work, and somewhat disappointing as its the first car I have ever had to p/x and not sell prvately. And Sytner truly believe they will take a material knock.
and this is a 44,000 mile car with a full main dealer service done last week! Main dealer no less.
I have to say I have enjoyed my short 5 month period of ownership, but the QP has been like having a pet snake. Every time I went near it it bit me financially. Cost to me £29,000 over 5 months excluding fuel and insurance (car £20,000, repairs £3,800 - brake discs, pads, rear hub, handbrake mechanism and shoes, Service £1,000, wheels and tyres £2,800, body cosmetic £500 car cover £300). What a blast though. Huge respect from my teenage sons and their friends. Would I recomend one? **** right!
Amazing experience but have a budget thats realistic - i clearly did not - and that is despite the truly amazing help and effort of Dick Lovetts at Swindon - they are great. Paul Cottrel, Darryl and Alan in parts.
The replacement is a Merc, a new model demonstrator 350 CLS for which I expect no respect here, but like another member here that has gone for his red M3, a change was needed. I just could not jusstify the QP in my little world.
I have enjoyed the events I have been to and the people I have met. And most of all I have enjoyed this forum and hope to stick around. Particular thanks to AndyK, Enzo, Parisien and others whose name just does not immediately sping to mind - all helpful and supportive and make this place a good place to be!
I will post a picture of the Merc and expect t be completely lambasted
Marc
The QP has gone
25 watchers on Ebay
Some p/x offers but not realistic
No viewings after nearly three weeks.
I am a Merc fan and recently had a feeling i would go back to the brand with a new car. easy i thought, i'll p/x the QP and they will want to do a deal. 12 garages couldn't get a underwriting bid. One did at £13,000. Then Sytner stepped up with a deal amounting to £19,000 because i was buying a £48k car from them ......
Hard work, and somewhat disappointing as its the first car I have ever had to p/x and not sell prvately. And Sytner truly believe they will take a material knock.
and this is a 44,000 mile car with a full main dealer service done last week! Main dealer no less.
I have to say I have enjoyed my short 5 month period of ownership, but the QP has been like having a pet snake. Every time I went near it it bit me financially. Cost to me £29,000 over 5 months excluding fuel and insurance (car £20,000, repairs £3,800 - brake discs, pads, rear hub, handbrake mechanism and shoes, Service £1,000, wheels and tyres £2,800, body cosmetic £500 car cover £300). What a blast though. Huge respect from my teenage sons and their friends. Would I recomend one? **** right!
Amazing experience but have a budget thats realistic - i clearly did not - and that is despite the truly amazing help and effort of Dick Lovetts at Swindon - they are great. Paul Cottrel, Darryl and Alan in parts.
The replacement is a Merc, a new model demonstrator 350 CLS for which I expect no respect here, but like another member here that has gone for his red M3, a change was needed. I just could not jusstify the QP in my little world.
I have enjoyed the events I have been to and the people I have met. And most of all I have enjoyed this forum and hope to stick around. Particular thanks to AndyK, Enzo, Parisien and others whose name just does not immediately sping to mind - all helpful and supportive and make this place a good place to be!
I will post a picture of the Merc and expect t be completely lambasted
Marc
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Well, I can't quite believe that two months on from this thread I find some sort of answer to the OP question.
The QP has gone
25 watchers on Ebay
Some p/x offers but not realistic
No viewings after nearly three weeks.
I am a Merc fan and recently had a feeling i would go back to the brand with a new car. easy i thought, i'll p/x the QP and they will want to do a deal. 12 garages couldn't get a underwriting bid. One did at £13,000. Then Sytner stepped up with a deal amounting to £19,000 because i was buying a £48k car from them ......
Hard work, and somewhat disappointing as its the first car I have ever had to p/x and not sell prvately. And Sytner truly believe they will take a material knock.
and this is a 44,000 mile car with a full main dealer service done last week! Main dealer no less.
I have to say I have enjoyed my short 5 month period of ownership, but the QP has been like having a pet snake. Every time I went near it it bit me financially. Cost to me £29,000 over 5 months excluding fuel and insurance (car £20,000, repairs £3,800 - brake discs, pads, rear hub, handbrake mechanism and shoes, Service £1,000, wheels and tyres £2,800, body cosmetic £500 car cover £300). What a blast though. Huge respect from my teenage sons and their friends. Would I recomend one? **** right!
Amazing experience but have a budget thats realistic - i clearly did not - and that is despite the truly amazing help and effort of Dick Lovetts at Swindon - they are great. Paul Cottrel, Darryl and Alan in parts.
The replacement is a Merc, a new model demonstrator 350 CLS for which I expect no respect here, but like another member here that has gone for his red M3, a change was needed. I just could not jusstify the QP in my little world.
I have enjoyed the events I have been to and the people I have met. And most of all I have enjoyed this forum and hope to stick around. Particular thanks to AndyK, Enzo, Parisien and others whose name just does not immediately sping to mind - all helpful and supportive and make this place a good place to be!
I will post a picture of the Merc and expect t be completely lambasted
Marc
I'll be the first to Lambast you Mark
and i own 2 mercs myself , both CLK's , have to agree with you in part , ive kept them both as a safety nets and mile crunchers incase the Massers turned out to be unreliable /expensive to keep , but fortunately i ve been lucky with them and im rather hands on maintenace wise which has helped tremendously £££s wise wish you well mate , pics of the new Merc more than welcome ........................... and please please continue to visit and contribute whenever you feel the need Warmest regards loz
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Of course we'll lambast the Merc,.. that's what friends do Marc - overly familiar and often overstepping the mark, but where would we be without a friendly ribbing now and again (ribbing? - at this point I fully expect Benny to enter stage left and be hilariously lewd)
Sorry to hear the QP was a costly adventure, but good to hear it was an adventure nonetheless.
All the very best with the Stuttgaterwagon; don't be a stranger; sell the blooody thing when you get bored stupid and get yourself a GTS. I hear they're very cheap to run..... much cheaper than the QP..............
Sorry to hear the QP was a costly adventure, but good to hear it was an adventure nonetheless.
All the very best with the Stuttgaterwagon; don't be a stranger; sell the blooody thing when you get bored stupid and get yourself a GTS. I hear they're very cheap to run.....
much cheaper than the QP..............
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Well, I can't quite believe that two months on from this thread I find some sort of answer to the OP question.
The QP has gone
25 watchers on Ebay
Some p/x offers but not realistic
No viewings after nearly three weeks.
I am a Merc fan and recently had a feeling i would go back to the brand with a new car. easy i thought, i'll p/x the QP and they will want to do a deal. 12 garages couldn't get a underwriting bid. One did at £13,000. Then Sytner stepped up with a deal amounting to £19,000 because i was buying a £48k car from them ......
Hard work, and somewhat disappointing as its the first car I have ever had to p/x and not sell prvately. And Sytner truly believe they will take a material knock.
and this is a 44,000 mile car with a full main dealer service done last week! Main dealer no less.
I have to say I have enjoyed my short 5 month period of ownership, but the QP has been like having a pet snake. Every time I went near it it bit me financially. Cost to me £29,000 over 5 months excluding fuel and insurance (car £20,000, repairs £3,800 - brake discs, pads, rear hub, handbrake mechanism and shoes, Service £1,000, wheels and tyres £2,800, body cosmetic £500 car cover £300). What a blast though. Huge respect from my teenage sons and their friends. Would I recomend one? **** right!
Amazing experience but have a budget thats realistic - i clearly did not - and that is despite the truly amazing help and effort of Dick Lovetts at Swindon - they are great. Paul Cottrel, Darryl and Alan in parts.
The replacement is a Merc, a new model demonstrator 350 CLS for which I expect no respect here, but like another member here that has gone for his red M3, a change was needed. I just could not jusstify the QP in my little world.
I have enjoyed the events I have been to and the people I have met. And most of all I have enjoyed this forum and hope to stick around. Particular thanks to AndyK, Enzo, Parisien and others whose name just does not immediately sping to mind - all helpful and supportive and make this place a good place to be!
I will post a picture of the Merc and expect t be completely lambasted
Marc
Marc, you can now say you have had a Maserati and loved it but as with lots the running costs can get the better of you at times.....I think your car was very individual and a great looking car...Hope you enjoy your new car and please come on and say hello now and again.
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Yes, having spent £9,000 on it in 5 months. As I say its not buying it,its preparing yourself for the running cocts when things go wrong:
Play in rear suspension hub = new hub not a bush £2600+
Rear Discs and pads £1000
Handbrake assembly at rear plus pads £800
Wheel bearing at rear £500
Dick Lovetts were great at not applying full MRRP and a lower labour rate for the age of the car
other part prices airconcompressor if needed £1300 plus VAT
and so on
everything seems to be 4 figures.....
I have loved it though .....
Thank you for all the kind words
Marc
PS With the early QP and 4200, they are cheaper than comparable cars to buy but are more expensive to maintain. Things tend to average out over the normal ownershi period of three or so years. For you, unfortunatley, a lot of the big things happened early on.
If you look at the large over allowance Sytner are giving you on the px which is really discount on the CLS, then your car probably is trading around £15k. I sold my 05 05 4200 (manual which counted against it) with 47k miles for £13.5k so that is about right. There is a high chance that over the next year years, your CLS will cost you more (depreciation, fuel, servicing, cost of capital) than keeping your QP but it will clearly give you more piece of mind which is important.
If you look at the large over allowance Sytner are giving you on the px which is really discount on the CLS, then your car probably is trading around £15k. I sold my 05 05 4200 (manual which counted against it) with 47k miles for £13.5k so that is about right. There is a high chance that over the next year years, your CLS will cost you more (depreciation, fuel, servicing, cost of capital) than keeping your QP but it will clearly give you more piece of mind which is important.
Where do you actually get your information from? How is a DS QP any more difficult to drive than a 4200,Gransport, 360F1? Performance wise the auto isn't as balanced and down 50-70bhp at the wheels. The auto makes a good shopping car, I'd grant you that but if you want performance the DS wins hands down.