£15k Alfa Sud

Zep

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It’s a bit of mongrel. Those are 33 wheels. It has to older ti (not QV) seats but as the S3 tailgate.

But then a S3 1.3ti was always rare, why buy a ti and not have the 105 engine?
 

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Birthday or no birthday, I think this should be avoided.
The seats probably have cheap covers from Motorland circa 1992, covering ripped velour. Notice the cheap tyres, Kingstan. The interior needs a good clean and where's the front for the radio. (Ironically, I found an old radio with a similar removable front in my garage's loft!) The outside bits look too good. Very shiny, but the interior being minging makes me want to take a magnet if I look at this car.
 

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Having had a couple of Suds they are great little machines but this is not the one to buy. A late 105 Green Cloverleaf was a hoot and that 1.5 twin carb flat four was always energetic and sounded brilliant but the ones to have are the booted Tis from late 70s early 80s but these were terrible for rust so are few and far between in good condition.

Personally I would have an early Sprint, one of the few Alfas from this period I have never owned and having lived with a Fulvia for sometime there is something about small light energetic cars.
 
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Tallman

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What? That's your actual first car or your first car was a Sud?
Mine was a non-descript Vauxhall Astra 1300S in Leaf Green. A 984 KLF. The only cool thing was it's number plate...
My first car was a Sud like the one in the ad, only it was a 1.5ti (1980 model as far as I can remember). Plenty of torque steer in wet conditions. It was a “reward“ for not smoking until I was 18. Strangely enough I suddenly recalled the number plate a week ago for no apparent reason.
 
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Zep

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My first car was Sud exactly like the one in the ad, only it was a 1980 model as far as I can remember. It was a “reward“ for not smoking until I was 18. Strangely enough I suddenly recalled the number plate a week ago for no apparent reason.

If you are in SA, it would have been built in Brits, right? Was it an Export GTA?
 

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If you are in SA, it would have been built in Brits, right? Was it an Export GTA?
I was in the Netherlands at the time, so it was an Italian built LHD, at the time rust free but I recall it already getting some bubbles around the wheel arches when I sold it.
 
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midlifecrisis

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If you are in SA, it would have been built in Brits, right? Was it an Export GTA?
I know what you're thinking Zep and you're right. Anything exported direct to SA would still be around today in metal form. A friend had an SA imported Ford escort and it was mint. Unfortunately, Alfa used the Russian Steel and it didn't last that long unless it was attached to a T-72 and even those are rare to find nowadays...(Slava Ukraini!)
 

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I know what you're thinking Zep and you're right. Anything exported direct to SA would still be around today in metal form. A friend had an SA imported Ford escort and it was mint. Unfortunately, Alfa used the Russian Steel and it didn't last that long unless it was attached to a T-72 and even those are rare to find nowadays...(Slava Ukraini!)

Not quite. Alfasud’s were built in SA (and Malaysia) in period. When they were changed to hatchback (5 door only) they were renamed “Export GTA” for reasons unapparent.
 

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My 2nd ever car was a rusty 1.5 Tix in metallic green - had a few since, but non in recevt times -could be tempted with a nice Sprint Veloce
 

dickyb

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I know what you're thinking Zep and you're right. Anything exported direct to SA would still be around today in metal form. A friend had an SA imported Ford escort and it was mint. Unfortunately, Alfa used the Russian Steel and it didn't last that long unless it was attached to a T-72 and even those are rare to find nowadays...(Slava Ukraini!)
The Russian steel story is a myth, there was (and still is) a steel plant at Taranto, only 200 miles away from Pomigliano d’Arco so the Italians had no reason to source steel from elsewhere. The main reasons for rust on Alfasuds were that there were many interruptions to production and bare metal unfinished bodyshells were often left outside. The factory is in an agricultural area and workers often just failed to turn up as they were working on the harvest. When the bodyshells were finally painted and assembled, they received little corrosion protection and cavities were filled with expanding foam which later trapped water and caused cars to corrode from the inside out. This YouTube video explains everything in detail:

 

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My first car was a chocolate brown 4 door 1.5 sud (with boot) followed by a cream TiX. Back in the day very little else on the road could could corner like them. Later in life I had to scratch the itch and have the Ti QV in my pic. Dry use only !