QP/GT front subframes - the truth

rockits

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Indeed, I went with a bespoke wooden structure earlier in the year which allows for decent ventilation but which still keeps the rain out. It's a tandem which can be a bit of a faff but it fitted the space better. It now has power too, it was a bit gloomy inside when these photos were taken before the lighting arrived!


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If you don't mind me being rude how much did that cost for base, structure and labour all in?
 

rockits

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I think this is an issue with standard 8ft containers being too narrow realistically to be comfortable without hassle. You can get 10ft wide ones it seems but the price goes up.

You can do a spray foam insulation treatment now as well which I'll look at. Just found a perfect container supplier really local to me that do custom and flat pack stuff as well.

Ideally I want to create a large office with dual toilet section/block. Then a 4 car garage.

Thinking you could go modular, take some sides of and stick some together to get the ideal size. I think 6m x 3m is perfect as that is what my temp polytunnels were.
 

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If you don't mind me being rude how much did that cost for base, structure and labour all in?

Not at all, it was £4k all in for the base, timber and labour but without the electrician. It is 12m x 4m and then 2m high, rising to 2.5m at the highest point of the pitch of the roof. My only involvement was making the tea
 

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Not at all, it was £4k all in for the base, timber and labour but without the electrician. It is 12m x 4m and then 2m high, rising to 2.5m at the highest point of the pitch of the roof. My only involvement was making the tea
Thanks. That sounds really reasonable. I reckon 12m x 6m would be ideal for 4 cars but would need 4 pairs of doors. So 50% bigger maybe would mean £6k...sounds like a bargain to me as can't see that a shipping container route will work out better.

The only and fairly important consideration I might need to focus on is that a shipping container is a non permanent structure which has benefits for my planning application for my house also better as a business purchase from what I can tell.

The concrete base with wooden structure makes much more sense also looks nice. However the movable container option seems to have possibly and weirdly some more benefits.

I'll speak to my accountant tomorrow to see what he prefers and would suggest what is better to buy in the business.
 

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I’m liking these containers we have 4 spaces outside our unit.
So experts, what would I need for 4 cars with some sort of roll up door along the long side?

I suppose it would be 2 containers with one double door in each
 

rockits

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It seems to make a lot of sense Matt. Semi-movable & semi permanent and will retain much of its value so easily movable/saleable. I have just found a very local business to me that I will speak to as they have many options in addition to standard containers.

As the containers seem to keep most of their structural rigidity in the corners and floor the sides have less impact allowing real modular construction possibilities.

Plenty of roller options on fronts/sides as the faces don't seem to be structural. Also you are not lifting them with weight in as they were designed so the structural rigidity is less important and it only needs to keep itself together in essence.

 

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Bebs

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It seems to make a lot of sense Matt. Semi-movable & semi permanent and will retain much of its value so easily movable/saleable. I have just found a very local business to me that I will speak to as they have many options in addition to standard containers.

As the containers seem to keep most of their structural rigidity in the corners and floor the sides have less impact allowing real modular construction possibilities.

Plenty of roller options on fronts/sides as the faces don't seem to be structural. Also you are not lifting them with weight in as they were designed so the structural rigidity is less important and it only needs to keep itself together in essence.

I rented 2 x 20 ft storage containers fully insulated from Bell recently for a period of 15 months whilst we were renovating our house. Superb customer service. Can’t recommend them enough.
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Standard container just isn't wide enough.
Reminds me of a standard width concrete prefab, maybe even less wide, or all the townhouses that are built with 'garages' that you can't fit in a 'normal' car anymore!
I guess two standard width ones welded together would still be too tight to be practical for two cars also.
Especially if you are insulating the inside walls making the width even less.
As soon as you go wider than stock the price will increase making it less viable.
 

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We are just going through the design stages of garage space in Ireland and are looking at all options, hadn't thought about containers but might look into that option as well as timber and block strucutres we were considering.

Initial plan was to extend house sideways and add Double length, double width garage with storage / office room above but after looking at the land a standalone double, double might be better and easier for planning. Architect coming round next week to offer advice based on local knowledge
 
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Newbie here, be gentle. Getting back to the original matter, is it your experience that the rust issue is more related to mileage than age ? I know it's an impossible question because the individual car's history is most important. It's just that I'm considering a 2007 QP, 4.2 sport GT ( auto ) with 44,000 miles and have just had the xxxx scared out of me reading this thread. Obviously I'll get a full independant inspection done before buying. I intend to use this as a daily driver to replace my 1997 BMW 540 that has 96,000 miles and is running sweet as a nut, with no rust....... Heart and head are fighting. Feel free to assist or insult. Cheers, Mark.
 

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Newbie here, be gentle. Getting back to the original matter, is it your experience that the rust issue is more related to mileage than age ? I know it's an impossible question because the individual car's history is most important. It's just that I'm considering a 2007 QP, 4.2 sport GT ( auto ) with 44,000 miles and have just had the xxxx scared out of me reading this thread. Obviously I'll get a full independant inspection done before buying. I intend to use this as a daily driver to replace my 1997 BMW 540 that has 96,000 miles and is running sweet as a nut, with no rust....... Heart and head are fighting. Feel free to assist or insult. Cheers, Mark.

My view is that it is more related to use and storage. If you are buying a car, get it thoroughly inspected and then protected if all is well and you shouldn’t have any issues.
 

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Totally agree with what Zep has said.
An inspection will highlight all and then if you buy continuous maintenance cleaning and protection they will be fine.
 

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Another QP in this week for electrical issues...leaving next year now with a new subframe.