Brexit Deal

Nibby

Nibby

Member
Messages
2,121
Oneball said:
No, just don’t get football. When my Mum was little in the 50s her dad would take her to Villa matches. You couldn’t do that when I was young, people got killed at football matches and the Montenegro match proved not a lot has changed.

No one throws coins at the ref in rugby or cricket or hockey or basketball.

I’m not a cricket fan but took my brother in law to see England India a few years ago. We spent the day getting bladdered next to a group of twenty something India fans, the most offensive thing that happened was someone farted!
Click to expand...
I'm not a big football fan anymore, like to see the Cambridge United result and you quite rightly point out how the other sports tend to be trouble free, we seemed to making good headway but going by the recent events at the Birmingham v Villa match and the Celtic v Rangers even in this country has it's fair share of morons.
 
Phil the Brit

Phil the Brit

Member
Messages
1,499
GeoffCapes said:
I do a lot of work with hotels and hotel chains. One of the biggest issues for them is that those European workers who came to the UK to do the 'low paid unskilled jobs' are going back to the country of their birth because of the uncertainty with Brexit.
This is leaving thousands of positions empty.
You would think there would be a clamour from all of those who complained about foreigners coming over here taking their jobs to fill these positions wouldn't you?

But no, these low paid, unskilled jobs are clearly beneath you average unemployed unskilled UK citizen as they remain unfilled.
Because of the minimum wage and benefit levels, those on the dole will only be marginally better off working than they would doing nothing and collecting their benefits, so where is the incentive?

At least those who came here to work, actually did work, which its more that you can say for a large number of unemployed people who complained about 'foreigners taking our jobs'.
Click to expand...

Yes, you would think there would be a clamour for these low paid jobs that "foreigners" took that many used as a reason for wanting Brexit.
Truth is that there is a significant percentage of low life lazy scum in this country who think work is beneath them.
Dole money comes too easy for them. If I was in charge of "the system" I would say go out and do 40 hours unpaid community work and I'll give you your dole money.
Also, is it me or does there seem to be more people claiming disability benefits nowadays? Forget that, apparently according to the DWP website the number has gone down for people of working age. Still 6.8 million working age people though!!!
 
jasst

jasst

Member
Messages
2,319
Image may contain: text
 
GeoffCapes

GeoffCapes

Member
Messages
14,000
Phil the Brit said:
Yes, you would think there would be a clamour for these low paid jobs that "foreigners" took that many used as a reason for wanting Brexit.
Truth is that there is a significant percentage of low life lazy scum in this country who think work is beneath them.
Dole money comes too easy for them. If I was in charge of "the system" I would say go out and do 40 hours unpaid community work and I'll give you your dole money.
Also, is it me or does there seem to be more people claiming disability benefits nowadays? Forget that, apparently according to the DWP website the number has gone down for people of working age. Still 6.8 million working age people though!!!
Click to expand...

A friend of a friend of my wife plays the ‘system’. She’s got 4 kids, never worked a day in her life, her house is paid for, she has three holiday a year, and get this, she had a boob job done for free as her boobs were making her depressed after having 4 kids!!!! :mad::mad::mad:
 
Oneball

Oneball

Member
Messages
11,130
Nibby said:
I'm not a big football fan anymore, like to see the Cambridge United result and you quite rightly point out how the other sports tend to be trouble free, we seemed to making good headway but going by the recent events at the Birmingham v Villa match and the Celtic v Rangers even in this country has it's fair share of morons.
Click to expand...

The weird thing is the guys I know who will bash seven bells out of each other at a football match will go to a rugby or cricket match and not say boo to a goose.
 
Wattie

Wattie

Member
Messages
8,640
MaserCoupe said:
I’m still waiting for Brexiters to gleefully announce that things are going to be better after we leave, you know that we are going to have our “cake and eat it.” The “sunny uplands” dialogue that was rammed down the country’s throat and what happened to the leave campaign’s diktat that we will not leave without a deal.......whatever happened to that?

Oh but those darn redlines (to satisfy the electorate) we can’t drop those because then it wouldn’t be leave. So let’s continue the narrative of the ‘evil entrenched EU and those other enemies of the people those scaremongering remainers oh sorry I mean remoaners” How very embarrassed must people feel. How far down the rabbit hole do you let the headbangers take you. Populism what an easy trap to fall in...

Brexit not going very well is it...........Turkey set to join the EU? What happened there? It never happened. Who’s at “breaking point now”.
Click to expand...
The honourable gentleman seems totally unable to comprehend that Brexit is not going very well because an absolute Buffoon of a woman, a remainer no less, with a Manchurian plan so cunning but more idiotic than Baldricks got involved.
Like Turkey she Ought to be well and truly stuffed, she has humiliated the UK.
I’ll give way
 
Wattie

Wattie

Member
Messages
8,640
conaero said:
All these votes in the HofC why not have Mays deal main items listed out and you tick yes or no?

99% The backstop will be the main issue.

Go back to the EU and say "theres your issue, change it or its a no deal exit"

...or am I just being a simpleton?
Click to expand...
The Honourable gentleman has a valid point however you have to have a card with which to negotiate that.
Our snap playing Pm originally said that “no deal is better than a bad deal”.....apprentice poker player. Unfortunately she was “winking” when she said it and as a result of her actions in recent weeks that is off the table.
She did not play that card.
She also did not play the remove the withdrawal agreement or no €50billion card.
Hence the dire position of the UK and the reason remainer members have suggested Brexit isn’t going too well!
An incompetent remainer has messed it all up! At no stage has Europe been under pressure in the negotiations....just time pressure from the mess she’s made of it as the clock ticks down to no deal.
Pathetic.
I’ll give way
 
Last edited:
Wattie

Wattie

Member
Messages
8,640
[
Rwc13 said:
I don’t get why people quote opinions as facts, and even worse why people repeat what are clearly opinions as if they are facts. For every so-called “fact” there are countless potential alternative “facts”. The only true fact about Brexit is we don’t know what will result and neither does the EU or all the brilliant economists because there are just too many variables that could and will change.

In my view we should respect the vote and get on with it. And guess what, like most things in life, it will neither be as good nor as bad as the optimists and doomongers respectively would have it.

And it’s sll very well saying what about the 16m, but the remainers want a result that completely ignores the views of the 17m. Whereas Brexit has been discussed and even offered in a variety of flavours to compromise somewhat on the preferences of remainers, but it appears no flavours but “remaincurrent” are acceptable.

The other point that Wattie has made repeatedly but nobody has it seems appreciated is that “no deal” could end up with the hard Irish border that everybody is trying to avoid. Except that the EU has already said they won’t let it - they will find accommodations that remove the need for a hard border in a no deal scenario. So why insist on it in the Withdrawal Agreement where we should be working together much more collaboratively. It’s just bollox. It’s just Juncker and Barnier trying to prove a point that will ultimately be to the EU’s detriment I believe.

I voted remain, and I’m still pretty neutral believe it or not - I can see the pros and cons of both sides. But one thing that I believe more strongly than ever is that the EU needs to be reformed massively to remove the abusive and corrupt practices and downsize it to be what most countries signed up for and many are now starting to see again as the end game, a common market trade facilitation relationship, not a political monster.
Click to expand...
Members of the House Halleluhja!
Someone listens “The other point that Wattie has made repeatedly but nobody has it seems appreciated is that “no deal” could end up with the hard Irish border that everybody is trying to avoid. Except that the EU has already said they won’t let it - they will find accommodations that remove the need for a hard border in a no deal scenario. So why insist on it in the Withdrawal Agreement where we should be working together much more collaboratively. It’s just bollox. It’s just Juncker and Barnier trying to prove a point that will ultimately be to the EU’s detriment I believe.”


May negotiated a “trap” that wasn’t needed and now they can see how they can trap us they are refusing to budge on the WA!!!

We need to leave with
NO DEAL!!!
I’ll give way
 
MaserCoupe

MaserCoupe

Member
Messages
564
Oh Wattie you are funny, I’ve lost count with when you keep telling us that you are graciously tapping out of the thread and yet lo and behold the man is back for more. It reminds me of Michael Corleone in the Godfather 3. “Every-time I think I’m out they pull me back in!” Cue diabetic spasm, except on here I imagine a desk on the Gold Coast is getting smashed and another immediately being mail ordered. Love you lots my right honourable expat. :lol::D
 
Wattie

Wattie

Member
Messages
8,640
MaserCoupe said:
Oh Wattie you are funny, I’ve lost count with when you keep telling us that you are graciously tapping out of the thread and yet lo and behold the man is back for more. It reminds me of Michael Corleone in the Godfather 3. “Every-time I think I’m out they pull me back in!” Cue diabetic spasm, except on here I imagine a desk on the Gold Coast is getting smashed and another immediately mail ordered. Love you lots my right honourable expat. :lol::D
Click to expand...
The member must have misunderstood my new parliamentary ethics approach.
"I'll give way" is something MP's do in the HOC when they face an opposite opinion and give way for that to be heard.....then they resume.
can the member comment on

I'll give you a cuddle and give way
 
Wattie

Wattie

Member
Messages
8,640
doodlebug said:
You do realise that the AfD is an extreme right party, don't you? Be careful what you wish for.
Click to expand...
The member may note that its an extreme government that ignores the democratic vote of the people it was elected to enforce.
UK Democracy dead?
Be careful what you wish for.
I'll give way.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.