Newbie looking at Gransport - anyone know anything about this car?

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Cheers, went and checked based on MAF pics...looks a sparkler....am sure you're like a 5 year old on Xmas eve now.....:)


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hodroyd

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Looks in nice condition Simon, hope you get the job done, if so welcome to GS ownership..!!
 
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Following the replies to my post earlier re front brake pads and discs, I found the thread on this forum discussing the compatibility of Brembo Ferrari 550 front discs. It looks as though prices have gone up a bit since the original thread. Can any of you guys confirm that these are the right ones - or rather that the GS uses the same disc as the 4200 - before I order any...

http://www.apbrakediscs.co.uk/front-brembo-brake-discs-ferrari-550-maranello-96-to-02.html

I'm struggling with pads. AP doesn't seem to have front pads for the F550. In the old thread someone mentioned Mintex pads but the F550 isn't listed in their online catalogue (nor in the Textar or Pagid catalogues - the sister brands to Mintex).

Can anyone shed some light on this and advise where to find front pads for the GS at a reasonable price?
 
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The ferrodo pads for the 4200/GS are Ferodo FDB451 and FDB998 - are those what you are searching for?

You could also go for yellow stuff pads which some on here (e.g. BennyD) will vouch for.

Check out the alternative parts thread in the 4200 forum, it has a bunch of suppliers and other advice.
 
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Pagid pads were OE on the AC, the 32/42/GS are all supposed to be the same brakes, so the Pagids for the AC should fit..!!
 
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Simon, well done mate.....Good choice for the money............If you still want that chat phone anytime........Really pleased for you mate.
 
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Simonfryan said:
Interestingly Opieoils have the Brembo discs at a lower price...

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/product-f...uctTypeID=80&SEName=brembo-brake-pads#results

No pads though..
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Hi Simon

Just did (well few months) pads and discs on my 4200. The Ferodo pads are pretty much impossible to find right now and Simon at Opie told me that they dropped them due to continued supply issues. When I did my fronts in the summer, I got Ferrodo pads from Opie, but it took weeks. The discs you're looking at are correct.

I ended up with Yellow Stuff pads on the back of mine from EBC directly cost of £92 inc shipping. They are fine,


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CatmanV2 said:
Hi Simon

Just did (well few months) pads and discs on my 4200. The Ferodo pads are pretty much impossible to find right now and Simon at Opie told me that they dropped them due to continued supply issues. When I did my fronts in the summer, I got Ferrodo pads from Opie, but it took weeks. The discs you're looking at are correct.

I ended up with Yellow Stuff pads on the back of mine from EBC directly cost of £92 inc shipping. They are fine,


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I think I might've made a breakthrough in the brake pads - no pun intended!

I've done some digging around and googled the part number shown for some Mintex pads I found on brakeparts.co.uk for a 3200.

http://brakeparts.co.uk/#page=parts...ersion=COUP*(99-)+3200GT+COUPE+SPYDER+&+CORSA

By Googling this part number I was able to find out that this pad also fits a BMW 7 Series (E38) - or at least the 3.5litre engine 7 series. I searched for pads for this model on the Euro Car Parts site and found the identical shape pad to the one shown for the 3200 on brake parts.co.uk

Euro Car Parts also lists the WVA number (a universal reference code used by all pad manufacturers - WVA21471):

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/B...a9f58e4f6ba0d4f8ff3c33618d68a6d46265f8&000036

Google this number and up pops a link to the Ferodo site, which shows this pad as being used on several applications, including Ferrari and Maserati, with a Brembo caliper:

http://www.ferodoracing.com/catalogue/detail_car_tuning.php?cat=brake_pads&code=FDS998

So this means that if you now search for this pad either by the WVA number, or by searching for pads for a BMW 7 series E38 (1998) 3.5L, you should have a wide choice of brands.

Euro Car Parts list Pagid, ATE and Textar. Having worked with TMD Friction (owners of Textar, Pagid and Mintex - I did all their marketing for almost 10 years, including writing technical bulletins/brochures) and had many conversations with their ex head of engineering in Germany, Textar pads are far better than Pagid (not Pagid RS), ATE and brands such as APEC. Text at are original equipment on a lot of super cars, including the Veyron.

Hope this is useful. I'm certainly going to try ordering and having the Textar pads fitted if and when I finally get my hands on the GS. I'll let you know how I get on but I'm pretty confident these will be the same fit many as the Mintex pads listed on brakeparts.co.uk for a 3200 - only far better than Mintex.

I now need to try the same in the discs to see if Euro Car Parts sell Pagid equivalents. I know from experience that the Pagid discs are exceptional quality (equivalent to Brembo) and coated so they never corrode...

Simon
 
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Cool, nice work Simon. This car (that you don't have!) look to be in good hands already. Best find the link to the Centenary Trip and start saving.....
 
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It's amazing what happens when someone with industry knowledge gets on something like this.

Maybe do similar one day for the GT cars, help out the members who are still stuck with Maser parts at maser prices!
 
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I've found the Brembo part number for the front discs (09.6802.20) from http://www.nextdaybrakes.com/info-p...ts&engine=5.5000&year=2002&search=Part+Number but can't find any way of cross referencing that with other brands online.

Have asked a client of mine (at Euro Car Parts) if they can cross ref using their TecDoc software, which lists all manufacturers of aftermarket replacements for each original part.

I'll let you know if he manages to turn up any alternatives to Brembo, though the Brembo front discs are only £94.36 each at Opie:

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-75252-brake-disc-for-1-wheel-single-vented-disc-brembo-09680220.aspx

I'd still be keen to know if the F550 disc is definitely right for a GS, as all the posts I've seen about this refer to 3200/4200. I'm hoping that someone with a GS has fitted them...
 
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Chrisbassett said:
It's amazing what happens when someone with industry knowledge gets on something like this.

Maybe do similar one day for the GT cars, help out the members who are still stuck with Maser parts at maser prices!
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If anyone knows of any info on the brakes on the GT cars that I can use as a starting point I'll definitely do some work on this...
 
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I was supposed to be doing the Gumball with a mate in his California earlier this year but the missus wasn't too keen on me going when she saw the videos online of past events!
 
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Simonfryan said:
I'd still be keen to know if the F550 disc is definitely right for a GS, as all the posts I've seen about this refer to 3200/4200. I'm hoping that someone with a GS has fitted them...
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They're 100% the same for the GS. I will fit the 550 discs when mine need changing.
 
hodroyd

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Simon,
Well done on all the behind the scenes brake work, we would all be interested on anything you turn up..!!
Cheers
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