Newbie looking at Gransport - anyone know anything about this car?

Andyk

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Do you think so Matt...Not so sure.....I is hard to say what a car will be worth but big engine cars are becoming hard to sell and this will only get worse. Sure there will always been a market for them as there will always be buyersw like us....... I think that the GS has still a little way to fall yet. The only reason that low miles cars have gone up is because of a few dealers putting them up for silly money and tryign to push prices up.....If you notice these cars are not selling fast and are sitting around.......

If you pay 25k/26k for a GS with 35/40k on it now, put 10/15k on her is 2 years I think you would be very lucky to get your money back. That car surely has a few k to drop over the next couple of years.....I think these cars will be up for 22k in two years or so time..Maybe less......The 3200 has only just stabalised after all these years and the GS is not old enough to stop dropping yet. Plus the fact the cars are looking dated due to the release of the GT......Until it becomes old enough for that 'classic' status I don't think it will be a safe bet not to loose money......

Out of the 3 cars that Simon has put up links to the silver one at 17k must be the best bet as far as not loosing a shed load of cash as long as the inspection doesn't turn up anything nasty.......Can not see that car being worth less than 16k in a year.......Its at the bottom of the price range and until other cars drop to that price then you could ask for 17k all day long as it will be the cheapest on sale......If it was me though I think I would go with Simons grey one......A very good value LE in a very nice colour combination plus ou are getting that DL service thown in....but I would imagine you will not het much more than £500 off the price of the car....The blue car would be a real pig to move on onl because of the interior.

If it was me I would buy the car I like within my budget and not worry about depreciation...These are Maserati's and as such are hard to sell, are not cheap to run so are not like your average car....All Maserati have dropped like a stone price wise over the years...They are getting better.....but the GS is still from an age where punters were scared of the mark due to reputation of reliability.......This doesn't help resale......Unfounded or not it's how it is....

You buy a Maserati with your heart......Its all about the marque, the history, the passion...Once you have one you will be hooked and nothing else will do......Bu it enjoy it, drive it...You will love it... A flawer gem without a doubt but one you will treasure.

Saying all that... I could be completely wrong .... just my thoughts....
 

conaero

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Valid points Andy and I respect your opinion, suppose time will tell.

So let's take the Grey LE, 2 years from now with 63k on the clock....prize for who gets closest.

I recon would be worth (sale price not what its out up for) £17,750
 

conaero

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As a guide I bought my GS at 2.5 years old in 2009 for £31k with 21k miles.

I owned it 2 years, mileage was 35k and sold it for £28k and paid for half a clutch.

Added a full Larini system but removed that and got my money back.

The same car now at twice the age is worth around the same money, maybe a grand or two less.

Cheap motoring (pushes fuel bills under the mat)
 
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Parisien

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Interesting info Matt.....certainly takes the huge expense off any car ownership if you can dodge the depreciation bullet....almost an investment!!!!


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conaero

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I made the assumption that being full leather its an LE, off to have another look...
 

Parisien

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These small details are vital to know Peter...good spot, saved a red face there Matt!!!!!!

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conaero

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...pretty sure it is Peter, it has the leather headlining and not tech cloth, I cant tell if it has HID or not, how can you tell?
 

MAF260

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Not an LE. No headlight washers and no auditorium 200 (should be a badge above the woofer on the door panel). Also, do LEs have painted brake calipers, usually red or yellow?
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Simonfryan

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All valid points guys - I think I've started a major debate here.... :unsure:

Firstly, as I mentioned before, I'm not too phased by depreciation - I expect to lose some money on whichever car I buy and if I lost £4-5k on the grey one over 2 years it wouldn't kill me. If depreciation was such an important factor I'd buy the 911, as the one I have been looking at is £2k underpriced and I am confident I could sell in 2 years time and probably lose no more than a grand.

Secondly, I doubt I'll put more than 5k miles a year on the car. So in 2 years time it should still haver lower mileage than the silver car has today. I'd like to think that I won't wan to need to sell in 2 years time, as for me stepping up from this would mean an F430, which I doubt I'll be able to afford in 2 years time without taking out some major finance, but I guess you never know...

I agree your comment Andy about buying cars like this with the heart - OK it's probably best not to, but that's exactly why I put in the offer on the grey car within 6 hours after seeing it. It got me excited in a way that the silver car didn't quite manage (no rude comments please chaps!!). My heart was saying 'buy it' and my head was saying 'get an inspection first' but my heart won unfortunately.
 

Simonfryan

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Sorry should've said that post was in reply to earlier comments....

I think the grey car will need front discs and pads soon - plus it hasn't had a brake fluid change in the last 2 years. I read on an earlier post that Ferodo pads are OE (on the 4200/GS) but Pagid is a client of mine so I can get Pagid pads and discs at a discounted rate (if I ask nicely). The Pagid catalogue doesn't list any parts for the 4200 or Gransport, so does anyone know if they share pads and discs with any other marque/model? It's a Brembo caliper I believe, so the chances are it is used on other models too...

Also, I tried to find the prices of the front pads and discs on the Eurospares site but couldn't find them listed. Not sure if I'm being dumb or if their site just doesn't work well with iPad. If anyone knows and can give me a rough idea of cost I'd be grateful.
 

MAF260

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Sorry should've said that post was in reply to earlier comments....

I think the grey car will need front discs and pads soon - plus it hasn't had a brake fluid change in the last 2 years. I read on an earlier post that Ferodo pads are OE (on the 4200/GS) but Pagid is a client of mine so I can get Pagid pads and discs at a discounted rate (if I ask nicely). The Pagid catalogue doesn't list any parts for the 4200 or Gransport, so does anyone know if they share pads and discs with any other marque/model? It's a Brembo caliper I believe, so the chances are it is used on other models too...

Also, I tried to find the prices of the front pads and discs on the Eurospares site but couldn't find them listed. Not sure if I'm being dumb or if their site just doesn't work well with iPad. If anyone knows and can give me a rough idea of cost I'd be grateful.
Have a search on the site regarding brake discs, Simon. Ferrari 550 discs are a direct replacement for the Maserati version and considerably cheaper. Pads are a personal choice - varying opinions on what's best. OEM discs are Brembo, not sure if Pagid make a 550 version?
 

BennyD

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There is a thread about alternative brake discs. The 3200/4200/GS all share discs and pads with the Ferrari 550. Pagid should do pads for the 550 so they should fit. The reason you can't find them is because of the way Maserati licence their parts.
 

Simonfryan

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Excellent info. Thanks guys I'll try searching for Ferrari 550 discs/pads.

As far as I know Brembo buy in their discs and pads (Brenbo pads are Textar/Pagid).
 

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Lack of washer covers and the internal manual adjustment for the beam next to the lights switch indicate no HID...