Where to service in Kent ?

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Is the 3rd party service and Independent inspection prior to purchase or post-purchase?
I thought you had declared that you had already bought the vehicle. So I'm confused.

I have never dealt with ADG or Giallo or AV Engineering so I have no comments about them or their standards, but I understand them all to be reputable marque specialists.

Notwithstanding this, for your own peace of mind, I highly recommend a Pre-Purchase Inspection by another marque specialist to the seller and the sale be conditional on that inspection. If you are already beyond the point of no-return and gone ahead with the purchase (non-refundable sizeable deposit paid up, balance not subject to inspection) then there is little point having this done.

The LE is a very good example - though I have no remarks about this particular vehicle as they simply cannot be judged shiny side up and I have never dealt with the seller.

But at least I was correct from the outset - the red lines meant that your budget would need to increase - in this case 25%. Enjoy your purchase. I have had mine 3 years today - bought from Richard Grace cars as a low mileage mint example at just under 26k miles.
Maintained only by Autoshield Maserati in South Manchester who I highly recommend.

The stable mate is a 996 Turbo with a factory (£8k) X50 option with 6 speed manual box. Stunning car - but very different to the GS LE. I love them both - for different reasons.
 

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Is the 3rd party service and Independent inspection prior to purchase or post-purchase?
I thought you had declared that you had already bought the vehicle. So I'm confused.

I have never dealt with ADG or Giallo or AV Engineering so I have no comments about them or their standards, but I understand them all to be reputable marque specialists.

Notwithstanding this, for your own peace of mind, I highly recommend a Pre-Purchase Inspection by another marque specialist to the seller and the sale be conditional on that inspection. If you are already beyond the point of no-return and gone ahead with the purchase (non-refundable sizeable deposit paid up, balance not subject to inspection) then there is little point having this done.

The LE is a very good example - though I have no remarks about this particular vehicle as they simply cannot be judged shiny side up and I have never dealt with the seller.

But at least I was correct from the outset - the red lines meant that your budget would need to increase - in this case 25%. Enjoy your purchase. I have had mine 3 years today - bought from Richard Grace cars as a low mileage mint example at just under 26k miles.
Maintained only by Autoshield Maserati in South Manchester who I highly recommend.

The stable mate is a 996 Turbo with a factory (£8k) X50 option with 6 speed manual box. Stunning car - but very different to the GS LE. I love them both - for different reasons.


Deposit paid subject to inspection
 

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I’ve also not got any experience of those garages, although Mr. Voice has consistently stood out as having a first rate reputation. Have heard mixed reviews of Giallo.

I have excellent experience of Kent High Performance, aka The Ferrari Centre, and happily use them whenever needed. Maidstone based.
 

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AV won't service it as
  1. They want more Ferrari and less Maser !
  2. They don't have physical space for servicing due to delay in getting parts
  3. I don't live in their immediate vicinity to help with point 2 above.

Obviously need larger premises lol
 
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Leaves you with Giallo in Kent (and I've heard mixed reviews about them also despite having never used them - but there is no smoke without fire) or perhaps Emblem on the South Coast. Not sure a Ferrari centre or Foskers in Kent would be be helpful - you really need someone who deals with Masers day in/day out. I know that I'd want an independent pre purchase inspection on a GS, so cant help more. I think its a case of let this one go or cross your fingers, sleep with a sixpence under the pillow and hope you have bought a good 'un and no surprises at your first service ( and i'vd heard of this first service flagging up several thousand pounds of work as advisories on an unsuspecting buyer). The issue is that there are probably less than 40-50 GS LE models in this country and I'd hazard a guess that anyone who has a good clean tidy example is not selling at this uncertain time of low prices unless they really need to get rid of it to release cash.

The GS ( and especially in LE spec) is very desirable and probably one of the best cars Maserati ever made before they moved to volume production methods of the Gran Turismo. I hope you find the path that you feel is best for you.
 

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Leaves you with Giallo in Kent (and I've heard mixed reviews about them also despite having never used them - but there is no smoke without fire) or perhaps Emblem on the South Coast. Not sure a Ferrari centre or Foskers in Kent would be be helpful - you really need someone who deals with Masers day in/day out.

Kent High Performance do work with Maseratis day in, day out.
 
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No idea as I'm up North and have a fantastic Maserati specialist near me. Perhaps Kent High Performance is one for the buyer to approach?
 
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Mavster

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Adg and Giallo, are no longer friends, so they would raise unnecessary red flags on the car according to ADG.

I can prob convince AV to ppi it, then adg's white label service shop could service it as a compromise of sorts.
 
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Adg and Giallo, are no longer friends, so they would raise unnecessary red flags on the car according to ADG.

Have you taken the time to discuss such matters with Matthew at Giallo? FYI, apart from being sponsors, Giallo have previously been subjected to unfounded accusations on this forum. Perhaps this is where a little "smoke" originates. Needless to say the comments were eventually removed and an apology given.

I hope you enjoy your GS.
 
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I have to say that Matthew (and Sharon's) level of service was exemplary. More than happy to discuss my experience over PM

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Unfortunate that AV are unable to accommodate.

If you can make the logistics work Myles at Emblem will certainly leave no stone unturned in accurately assessing the state of the car.
 

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I think Emblem are great also actually, I spoke with them. Usefully, I now have a condition report from Emblem from Nov 2018 when it was last serviced. It turns out that ADG had this report previously as part of the paperwork pack with the car, but didn't show to me when I went to see the car Thursday. Trying to find out what ADG plan to do about some of the items listed in that. It's pretty much a PPI
 
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Emblem have a name for being very thorough judging only by remarks I have read on previous posts. Interesting that ADG did not share that report and likely work required from Nov 2018 at Emblem.

A car can have service history stamps, but the one that has all the advisory stuff carried out at service is the better example than the one with a basic service and stamp and key advisories not addressed.

The Nov 2018 service report throws new light on the car as well as the seller. That report will have advisories, some of which are likely to be trivial, some not so trivial.

I guess it's between you and ADG to find a way forward from here. Good luck.
 

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AV won't service it as
  1. They want more Ferrari and less Maser !
  2. They don't have physical space for servicing due to delay in getting parts
  3. I don't live in their immediate vicinity to help with point 2 above.
Obviously need larger premises lol
I find this very strange from a forum sponsor, who apparently wants less Maserati!
 

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I think Emblem are great also actually, I spoke with them. Usefully, I now have a condition report from Emblem from Nov 2018 when it was last serviced. It turns out that ADG had this report previously as part of the paperwork pack with the car, but didn't show to me when I went to see the car Thursday. Trying to find out what ADG plan to do about some of the items listed in that. It's pretty much a PPI
A used car dealer is a used car dealer, trust none of them
 
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I find this very strange from a forum sponsor, who apparently wants less Maserati!
Why is it strange? There are fewer Maserati cars than Ferrari. Every business has a right to turn away work or set its priorities and focus areas. Why is it different for a forum sponsor? They pay the sponsorship fees and satisfy members on Maserati competence. Beyond that, the forum cannot insist they look after only Maserati.
 

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Understood, will let you guys know, I am sure they will do the right thing by me. On the whole I think the car is not bad and it came recommended by Richard and the previous owner is a forum member on here who loved it. Some high potential cost items at different degrees of severity listed by Emblem in the report on the flip side however
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Why is it strange? There are fewer Maserati cars than Ferrari. Every business has a right to turn away work or set its priorities and focus areas. Why is it different for a forum sponsor? They pay the sponsorship fees and satisfy members on Maserati competence. Beyond that, the forum cannot insist they look after only Maserati.
I think the main issue is the physical space they have, perhaps they then want to balance both brands to build both brand reputations.
 
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A used car dealer is a used car dealer, trust none of them
I do not agree with your sentiment and the use of the word 'none'

Cars are off-loaded for a variety of reasons. Some are genuinely good cars, well-maintained and as described. However, there must be a sizeable volume of cars being offloaded for less sincere reasons such as:
  • neglected service items rolled over from prior services that in themselves were better dealt with when identified but are now a large bill when rolled together
  • wear and tear big bills looming

There are therefore ownets passing off cars which do not meet the description and their real state is revealed in an independent PPI.
The phrase caveat emptor should be a guiding compass.
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Understood, will let you guys know, I am sure they will do the right thing by me. On the whole I think the car is not bad and it came recommended by Richard and the previous owner is a forum member on here who loved it. Some high
I think the main issue is the physical space they have, perhaps they then want to balance both brands to build both brand reputations.
Makes sense to me. The volumes alone mean that there is more Ferrari work than Maserati. And they need to balance building both brands.