The future!!!

dickygrace

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How would an autonomous car cope in the uk.
We have narrow roads with passing places, times when you have to nearly stop and creep past each other, parking on roads when they then become a single width road.
They would blow their microchip brains the first day!
And a nation of alcoholics walking, falling and crawling into the road.
 

highlander

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That's when it will get interesting.
all joking aside that is the real interesting, and scary, bit. you are going to crash if you go right or straight ahead and will die in either crash, but you will survive if the car turns left but it will hit and kill 2 pedestrians...........not sure i want to trust a machine with that decision....
 

Swedish Paul

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How would an autonomous car cope in the uk.
We have narrow roads with passing places, times when you have to nearly stop and creep past each other, parking on roads when they then become a single width road.
They would blow their microchip brains the first day!
I would hope that the fallback position for the software would be to stop. All those traffic jams caused by AI. All those car chases in action movies deleted because of the traffic jams caused by AI. Probably.
 

j s pollo

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If the vast majority in the u/k would stop buying these silly battery motors the car companies would go bust also it would put a halt to the government and councils planting their big bro cameras all over the u/k .
 

Nayf

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If the vast majority in the u/k would stop buying these silly battery motors the car companies would go bust also it would put a halt to the government and councils planting their big bro cameras all over the u/k .
Well, VW and BMW have taken the hint recently
 

CatmanV2

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all joking aside that is the real interesting, and scary, bit. you are going to crash if you go right or straight ahead and will die in either crash, but you will survive if the car turns left but it will hit and kill 2 pedestrians...........not sure i want to trust a machine with that decision....

The decision will be made by the code. Written by humans. It's a significant ethical problem.

C
 

MrMickS

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Not forgetting the y2k bug...
Sorry but this always triggers me.

Without the effort, and money, spent on this it would have been a disaster. I know for a fact, because I was in charge of dealing with it, that there would have been disruptions to the UK 999 service if things had been left as they were.

Sometimes I think it would have been better to have not done anything...
 

midlifecrisis

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Sorry but this always triggers me.

Without the effort, and money, spent on this it would have been a disaster. I know for a fact, because I was in charge of dealing with it, that there would have been disruptions to the UK 999 service if things had been left as they were.

Sometimes I think it would have been better to have not done anything...
My point was, that it's a simple check to do but the hype around it helped a friend pay off his mortgage.
He wrote a simple script, put it on a floppy disc (yes!), pc boots from floppy, reads and executes script which changes time and date to 23:59 31/12/99 and waits a minute to see it roll over to 2000. Puts a sticker on PC.

Charges corporation a big bill.

If PC fails, he provided a service to supply Y2K compliant machines. Charges corporation bigger bill.
 

midlifecrisis

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How would an autonomous car cope in the uk.
We have narrow roads with passing places, times when you have to nearly stop and creep past each other, parking on roads when they then become a single width road.
They would blow their microchip brains the first day!

It's bad enough nowadays when you get 3 or 4 people who turn up at a mini roundabout at the same time. Mexican standoff.
 

Gooner

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My point was, that it's a simple check to do but the hype around it helped a friend pay off his mortgage.
He wrote a simple script, put it on a floppy disc (yes!), pc boots from floppy, reads and executes script which changes time and date to 23:59 31/12/99 and waits a minute to see it roll over to 2000. Puts a sticker on PC.

Charges corporation a big bill.

If PC fails, he provided a service to supply Y2K compliant machines. Charges corporation bigger bill.

I think MrMicks’ point is that most of the important risks were a lot harder to check than that and would have caused a lot more damage if the faults weren’t found in advance. A lot of money was wasted on pointless work like your friend’s, which would have proved very little about the PC, but people have to make their own judgement about the morality of what they charge people who don’t have access to the knowledge and resources that they do. A bit like we all judge main dealer prices.
 

Zep

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Things that have been imposed on us:

Speed limits
Seat belts
MOT tests
ABS brakes
Traction Control
Building regulations
Taxes

The nature of progress is that things we don’t necessarily want become normal. If you want to hold back the tide, all you get is wet feet.

But if you don’t like it, don’t participate. Buy older cars, disconnect your internet, buy stamps in bulk.
 
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Felonious Crud

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Things that have been imposed on us:

Speed limits
Seat belts
MOT tests
ABS brakes
Traction Control
Building regulations
Taxes

The nature of progress is that things we don’t necessarily want become normal. If you want to hold back the tide, all you get is wet feet.

But if you don’t like it, don’t participate. But older cars, disconnect your internet, buy stamps in bulk.
Greatness, Zep, don't forget greatness! I had mine thrust upon me.
 

CatmanV2

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My point was, that it's a simple check to do but the hype around it helped a friend pay off his mortgage.
He wrote a simple script, put it on a floppy disc (yes!), pc boots from floppy, reads and executes script which changes time and date to 23:59 31/12/99 and waits a minute to see it roll over to 2000. Puts a sticker on PC.

Charges corporation a big bill.

If PC fails, he provided a service to supply Y2K compliant machines. Charges corporation bigger bill.

Very simple for PC's. And stupid. Much more complex for more complex systems (obvs)

I've seen some really odd date / time related bugs in software.

C