Someone Talk Me Out Of This Please

[davy83]

Nice car....is that you in it and at the ring?

Yes thats me at the ring, the car was very good there, probably a lot better there than on the open road if I am honest.

 

[Wack61]

LOL.....after 6 pints of WB these days I'd not even be able to write, say or know what TVR was either!

Of course it makes no sense at all but is not stopping the urges.

I have a luxury saloon in the XJL SuperSport. Missus has a Discovery Sport so have the 7 Seater all round machine. Exotic Coupe is ticlked if the 4200 qualifies. Does the TVR become classic and nippy?

I think you need a not hatch in there. It is that classic and nippy? I need a work commercial as well so am allowed the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.

I guess looking at it the lovely Alfa GT could be surpass to requirements. Shame as I love it......that noise...mmmmmm......Busso.

I'd run less cars which would free up funds
I'd have
RR supercharged for Luxury / SUV
Open top , 4200 spider
Exotic coupe Jaguar Ftype
Classic but nippy Peugeot 205 GTi

 

[maserati_mcstradale]

The QP6 GTS is indeed a better buy than the Strad if rear legroom is important. But a totally different car to drive. It’s neigh on impossible to compare Masers limo (all be it a fast one) to their stripped out GT, and I can’t really imagine anyone seriously considering one over the other. They serve two completely different purpose. I used my QP GTS for ferrying the family and commuting to work with an auto box. Whereas I use my 2seat Strad for fun trips and when a manual gear box, more speed and more noise is required. Chalk and cheese.

BTW, the gearbox settings on the Strad are different to MC Shift MC Sportline also. They are quicker in the Strad. Remember, the MC Sportline is purely a kit of carbon trim (interior and exterior) that could be ordered on any normal GT auto or GT MC Shift of that period. It’s wasnt mechanically different to standard it terms of engine, brakes, gearbox, etc. Think of it as a fancy frock. Nice to have though, and I much appreciated the MC Sportline kit on my MC Shift.

I think with the QP6 GTS (100kg lighter) its a much different argument 193mph top speed stock as well. Yes its a sedan vs coupe. It has a weight deficit being 1900kg vs 1760kg for the two seater or 1800kg for the 4 seater Stradale. But the twin turbo V8 has 530hp plus 710nm torque compared to the 450/460 hp & 520nm torque of the Stradale. Just a basic ECU tune from Novitec on the new QP gets it to 605hp /820nm torque. Depending on the track it would beat the Stradale & straightline speed the Stradale would lose to the stock power of the QP GTS. The Stradale is still a fantastic car I just think it loses on performance to the QP6 GTS.

 

[Ewan]

I could be wrong, but it sounds as though you’ve not driven a 2 seat Strad around a track. It’s not a light car by any means, and certainly no track day special, but it is noticeably lighter and more nimble than the QP6, with stiffer suspension, more powerful brakes, and more feelsome steering. Hence it is far more capable and quick, being able to brake and turn later, carry more speed, and accelerate sooner. The fact that a QP can theoretically hit 190 as compared to the Strads180 (both approx) is completely irrelevant to track times.

Don’t get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed driving the QP GTS when I was invited to track drive it at the cars launch, but the Strad was/is faster.

Both are great cars, just made for different purposes. But most importantly, hats off to you for having the style and good taste to choose your Maser over the more obvious, powerful and quicker alternatives from Merc/AMG and Audi.

 

[rossyl]

With the concours it won being judged on looks alone. If you want to trailer it to each event/show, then it’s great. But if you expect to drive it there and back, think again.

Interesting comment.... reading between the lines.

 

[maserati_mcstradale]

I could be wrong, but it sounds as though you’ve not driven a 2 seat Strad around a track. It’s not a light car by any means, and certainly no track day special,

This video sold me

Thanks It was a easy decision, just from the presence/beauty/sound a Maserati has and its my first trident. Novitec also offers a great ecu tune on the QP6 GTS, something I am going to look into for the future as a power upgrade. It was between the cls63s 2016-2018, qp6 gts and mc stradale 4 seater. I wanted both the QP6 GTS and Mc Stradale. In the end the QP6 GTS made more sense as a 4 seater and is more powerful. Can't find much on these two cars. fastlaps is wrong with the torque on the QP6 GTS should be 710 nm. QP6 GTS is fastest overall, it wins straightline loses marginally on that specific track according to fastlaps https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ig3og5lrz201

 

[rockits]

Well back on topic

I took the leap and agreed to take the very nice TVR Chimaera 450 Turbo over the weekend. Was just waiting for the dealer to pop in to me Thursday morning to look at my Chimaera and maybe the 4200 to fund the deal possibly or cash if not. Very pleased and although a leap for me it makes sense for such a lovely example. Really looking forward to it and over the moon.

Until.........I get a call late last night from James @ Greenside Cars to tell me he is sorry but he has sold it to someone else. Dirty little car dealer sh1tbag......sorry Dicky not all dealers are like this of course

I'm pretty p1ssed as have put goodness knows how many hours into this....possibly 30/40 or likely many more hours! I just find out tonight it was bought by a very nice chap on PH. He didn't know I had agreed to buy it or I was looking at it as hadn't been on PH. He has offered to talk to me tomorrow and has offered me the car if I really wanted it.

Close your ears Dicky! Why are 'some' car dealers such lying, cheating, unscrupulous low life, immoral people that would do anything for money. Apparently this guy called after our deal was done and had offered more unaware of my deal. Car dealer thinks.....well screw the previous guy and his deal. I can make a little bit more cash here.

Currently very angry, upset and disappointed

 

[hashluck]

Speechless.

 

[philw696]

Disgraceful behavior indeed just like estate agents and the like.
It all comes down to the coin.
Leave a Google review on him.

 

[rockits]

Speechless.

Thanks....I was too. I was actually speechless when he called me. I honestly couldn't find the words and many words at all to respond at the time. I had to take a while to digest what I had heard.

Least there is plenty of decent folk on here I can take solace with

 

[rockits]

Disgraceful behavior indeed just like estate agents and the like.
It all comes down to the coin.
Leave a Google review on him.

Agreed Phil. These types would sell their grandmother it seems to make a couple of quid.

I'm with you in the main that they operate with a majority of other low life's in the Estate Agent and Solicitor world's. Many decent people in all these industries of course but the majority seem to be a little wide or unscrupulous.

 

[Ewan]

You had a verbal agreement. Tell him your lawyer will be in touch if he doesn’t compensate you or go ahead with the originally agreed deal.

 

[zagatoes30]

One bad apple but agree certain industries seem to have more than others...

I guess it depends how much more time you want to out into this and how much you want the car. Ewans route or talk to the guy who did buy it are both options if it is a must have but I would be seriously p155ed oof

 

[rockits]

You had a verbal agreement. Tell him your lawyer will be in touch if he doesn’t compensate you or go ahead with the originally agreed deal.

I do agree Ewan in principal but in the real world the only people that end up winning are the solicitors. I've spent....sorry...wasted enough money on solictors over the years.

Not much you can really do about it just take it on the chin. I'll see what the buyer says today when he calls me later.

 

[rockits]

You had a verbal agreement. Tell him your lawyer will be in touch if he doesn’t compensate you or go ahead with the originally agreed deal.

Just to add we had a written agreement over email so even worse. However I understand a verbal agreement has just as much weight in a court of law these days as a written agreement just harder to prove often.

 

[Vampyrebat]

So upsetting, sorry to hear this.............It's a shame that a deposit was not part of the deal because that would surely clench the deal??!!!

 

[Felonious Crud]

What a pr!ck. Sorry to read that, Dean.

 

[rockits]

One bad apple but agree certain industries seem to have more than others...

I guess it depends how much more time you want to out into this and how much you want the car. Ewans route or talk to the guy who did buy it are both options if it is a must have but I would be seriously p155ed oof

I am pretty upset, yes of course. I won't progress this legally as seems futile to me. I have spent a crazy amount of time already on this and just need to get over it. Just feeling a little disappointed and flat at the moment. I'll live

 

[rockits]

So upsetting, sorry to hear this.............It's a shame that a deposit was not part of the deal because that would surely clench the deal??!!!

Thanks. I had asked for his bank details to send a deposit or payment but he had ignored this and not given them to me. I suspect there was the commencement of this other deal bubbling in the background so maybe he was hedging his bets and keeping both deals alive in case one fell out of bed. Fine if you want to work this way but that is not the way I work or would like to be treated.

He even had the option of calling me to make me aware of another deal had been offered after our deal had been agreed. Even if he had said I'm sorry but I have been offered £1k or £5k more or whatever.....what do you want me to do? I could have said no, yes or told him I think that is morally wrong as we had a deal. Or anything. He chose not to call or do or say anything. That says a lot about a person in my book.

 

[Vampyrebat]

Thanks. I had asked for his bank details to send a deposit or payment but he had ignored this and not given them to me. I suspect there was the commencement of this other deal bubbling in the background so maybe he was hedging his bets and keeping both deals alive in case one fell out of bed. Fine if you want to work this way but that is not the way I work or would like to be treated.

He even had the option of calling me to make me aware of another deal had been offered after our deal had been agreed. Even if he had said I'm sorry but I have been offered £1k or £5k more or whatever.....what do you want me to do? I could have said no, yes or told him I think that is morally wrong as we had a deal. Or anything. He chose not to call or do or say anything. That says a lot about a person in my book.

Agreed........ A gentlemans agreement is as good as any, as long as the other party is a gentleman!!!