Someone Talk Me Out Of This Please

Wack61

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rockits said:
You not a fan of TVR's then?
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I'd had 6 pints of stella when I wrote that , I don't even remember doing it

I like looking at them but I wouldn't buy one , you said you wanted talking out of it :D

Though in your situation I'd have maybe 4 cars tops

A luxury saloon / suv
An open top sports car
An exotic coupe
Something classic but nippy

Surely that covers all the cars you need to have to tax ,insure , mot, keep running
 
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Wack61 said:
I'd had 6 pints of stella when I wrote that , I don't even remember doing it

I like looking at them but I wouldn't buy one , you said you wanted talking out of it :D

Though in your situation I'd have maybe 4 cars tops

A luxury saloon / suv
An open top sports car
An exotic coupe
Something classic but nippy

Surely that covers all the cars you need to have to tax ,insure , mot, keep running
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That's my aim here in France.
Just need to decide what my exotic Coupé will be to fit in with the other 3.
 
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Wack61 said:
I'd had 6 pints of stella when I wrote that , I don't even remember doing it

I like looking at them but I wouldn't buy one , you said you wanted talking out of it :D

Though in your situation I'd have maybe 4 cars tops

A luxury saloon / suv
An open top sports car
An exotic coupe
Something classic but nippy

Surely that covers all the cars you need to have to tax ,insure , mot, keep running
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LOL.....after 6 pints of WB these days I'd not even be able to write, say or know what TVR was either!

Of course it makes no sense at all but is not stopping the urges.

I have a luxury saloon in the XJL SuperSport. Missus has a Discovery Sport so have the 7 Seater all round machine. Exotic Coupe is ticlked if the 4200 qualifies. Does the TVR become classic and nippy?

I think you need a not hatch in there. It is that classic and nippy? I need a work commercial as well so am allowed the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.

I guess looking at it the lovely Alfa GT could be surpass to requirements. Shame as I love it......that noise...mmmmmm......Busso.
 
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Don't think the Cerb or Chim have aged well they just looked well dated. Give me a Z or a Sagarris though.
 
maserati_mcstradale

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rockits The MC sportline in white, I think thats the one its basically a strad for 30k with the stiff suspension, fully carbon kit and beautiful bianco white. TVR does not look or sound as good.59285
 
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Agreed that would be a cracking car but not sure a white car is for me. Also a GT doesn't fit in my stable at the moment.

I have the XJL SuperSport I'm happy with that is faster, comfier, cheaper but still interesting to drive and not much bigger than the GT. Also a bit more stealth and under the radar which I like.

The 4200 I'm happy with and with the potentially incoming TVR the smaller harder sports car is catered for.

I've just always struggled to make sense of the GT. Don't get me wrong I love the GT and always have. If you have one car that could do it all they totally make sense. Just never had that need or requirement so never been on my radar or shortlist.

I would be tempted at some point to part with my 4200 for a Strad if the price difference narrowed some more.
 
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I think for 30-31k The MC Sportline version of the GT is hard to beat, because its basically 90% a strad. But if you want something else then go for the TVR or Lotus. The M4 is another car thats dropped to the 20's.
 
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maserati_mcstradale said:
rockits The MC sportline in white, I think thats the one its basically a strad for 30k with the stiff suspension, fully carbon kit and beautiful bianco white. TVR does not look or sound as good.View attachment 59285
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It’s not “basically a Strad”. It’s basically a standard GT-S with a few bits of carbon added, commonly the rear lip spoiler, front winglets, and door card inserts.

A Strad has different bodywork, different interior, different suspension, different brakes, different exhaust system, different engine management settings, etc. etc. etc. And drives completely differently (I know, because i’ve had both).

A Strad is easily worth the £20k (minimum) increase over a normal GT-S. And it’s not just me saying this - it’s the wider marketplace.
 
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Ewan said:
It’s not “basically a Strad”. It’s basically a standard GT-S with a few bits of carbon added, commonly the rear lip spoiler, front winglets, and door card inserts.

A Strad has different bodywork, different interior, different suspension, different brakes, different exhaust system, different engine management settings, etc. etc. etc. And drives completely differently (I know, because i’ve had both).

A Strad is easily worth the £20k (minimum) increase over a normal GT-S. And it’s not just me saying this - it’s the wider marketplace.
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The stradale is different car as you say I was just trying to say for the budget the MC sportline is basically a 30k strad because you have the mc shift transmission (not 599 but same feelings almost), same engine stiff suspension. When I was buying I thought the QP6 GTS was a better buy than the stradale in terms of features and performance potential.
 
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I had a Chimeara with the Tuscan headlight conversion same as this one. It was not tubocharged, but had been tweaked to 320BHP (from standard 260 BHP), it had uprated suspension and brakes. I don't rate GAZ and would have gone for some thing different. So this car is nearly twice the power TVR thought it was safe with.
I think when you are considering this the comments about needing a nappy are about right. My car more or less wanted to kill me all of the time. Remember there is no ABS on the brakes, no airbags, no stability regulation no roll cage, and you are sitting 6 inches off the ground. My car sounded awesome, one of the nicest sounding cars I ever encountered, and I think the Chimeara is a good looking car, nice interior too, and useable boot
However if it was even remotely wet, doing pirrouettes on roundabouts was not uncommon. On a sunny day with warm tyres and dry roads if you dropped it into 3rd and floored it the wheels would spin for 2-3 seconds and the car would dance all over the road, not enough weight really for that amount of power. Dont get me wrong I got the hang of it and stopped spinning off and skidding all over the place but it took a lot of concentration to drive it hard as it really wanted to kill you. It would hit 60 in under 5 seconds, top speed over 165 easily, so yes a reasonably fast car, with 500 HP who knows what that thing could do, if you can get the grip.
I used to joke that a good journey in that car was one you survived. Beware this is a lot of power in a fibre glass go-cart.
 
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Sorry this is the TVR in question, I believed the headlight conversion was done at the factory, but i could be wrong.
 

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Thanks for your comments. Really helpful in trying to talk me out of it. Still hasn't worked yet though

I agree the RV8 in a Chimaera is a great package with targa option and large boot. Maybe half the boot needs lining with lead!

The sound for me of that RV8 is proper old school English classic V8 and perfect it over the later Speed 6 and AJP V8's.

This car has a 3 stage adjustable boost on the steering wheel which is a really good and sensible (did I just use that word!) idea. Gives 300bhp on cold/startup. Then stage 2 at 458bhp and Stage 3 at 573bhp. I guess that would be track or drag strip only really.

I'm no interested in going fast or crazy or that it is a turbo butter thing. The guy who spent years building it had it for 13 years and the detail is immense. The 450 was specifically chosen with FI in mind and has less or no cranks issues that affected some 500's. It was a mint 6k mile car 4 years old when he bought it in 2004 and had it until 2017. At the price I am looking at it is still a viable option as a really nice late 450 with low miles and owners. That it has some bonkersness is optional really as you could drive it at stage 1 all the time if you wanted.

I had been trying to tie a deal up on this one but we haven't been able to agree a figure that works for both.

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I will see what this week brings. Maybe a deal maybe not.
 
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maserati_mcstradale said:
The stradale is different car as you say I was just trying to say for the budget the MC sportline is basically a 30k strad because you have the mc shift transmission (not 599 but same feelings almost), same engine stiff suspension. When I was buying I thought the QP6 GTS was a better buy than the stradale in terms of features and performance potential.
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The QP6 GTS is indeed a better buy than the Strad if rear legroom is important. But a totally different car to drive. It’s neigh on impossible to compare Masers limo (all be it a fast one) to their stripped out GT, and I can’t really imagine anyone seriously considering one over the other. They serve two completely different purpose. I used my QP GTS for ferrying the family and commuting to work with an auto box. Whereas I use my 2seat Strad for fun trips and when a manual gear box, more speed and more noise is required. Chalk and cheese.

BTW, the gearbox settings on the Strad are different to MC Shift MC Sportline also. They are quicker in the Strad. Remember, the MC Sportline is purely a kit of carbon trim (interior and exterior) that could be ordered on any normal GT auto or GT MC Shift of that period. It’s wasnt mechanically different to standard it terms of engine, brakes, gearbox, etc. Think of it as a fancy frock. Nice to have though, and I much appreciated the MC Sportline kit on my MC Shift.
 
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Buy my Griff Instead Rockits; you know you want to! I wouldn't say it was underpowered; esp in with that chassis. The Nitron dampers were worth the money to try and tame the ride and handling and the upgraded engine management means next to no shunt:) And as a good as a Chim looks it's no Griff to my eyes....

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I have looked at it and it is of course very nice. Just not sure the numbers are going to work for me and not sure Bespoke will offer what this dealer has offered for my Chimaera and blue 4200.

Also no disrespect to your car at all but that 450 is something a little different.

I will speak to Martin when he is back though to see.
 
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