Quattroporte Vs Listed For Sale

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Part 16

Chris @ Scuderia will be able to get the right colour for you

I'd have thought a decent automotive trimmer would do it for a *much* lower cost.

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I was going to say a trimmer could do that easily.
Mine has a small mark similar on one side. The previous owner had kids, I guess that’s the cause..
I thought the only people allowed in the back of quattroportes were elegant ladies, so they didn’t need to design that part for heavy use. :)
 

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You have to be a certain kind of lunatic to own an a QP and maintain it properly.
It's no appreciating asset, and the downside of no maintenance it is writing off what little you paid for it in the first place. Cutting your losses doesn't cost you that much compared with ongoing maintenance unfortunately!
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I relate to that
 

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If someone can tell me where I can buy replacement bits for that rear section in the correct colour that would be great.

I do agree it all comes down to expectations, but it’s a car which is over 10 years old in a 4 door format which has quite fragile internal finishes in places.

I’m not saying it doesn’t have an effect on the price but to brand it as tired for those elements (almost like the sticky plastic) seems a bit harsh.

Maybe that was just an example of the overall feel where lots of things mounted up to make it feel tired to them when they viewed the car.
Get it retrimmed in proper leather or alcantara if you have some in the car. Buying a new one will only result in the same damage. The vinyl/sponge concoction they put in these cars is what leads to the peeling and splitting.
 

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My last QPV had 70k mile up and the interior did not look anything like as tatty as that one. Have you seen the interior of JayEmms 550?! I could not live with that level of unnecessary deterioration!
 

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My last QPV had 70k mile up and the interior did not look anything like as tatty as that one. Have you seen the interior of JayEmms 550?! I could not live with that level of unnecessary deterioration!

Elsewhere, there was some debate about miles vs hours; the theory being that 100,000 miles at 80 mph gives 1,250 hours of wear to the interior, whereas 100,000 miles at 40mph gives 2,500 hours of wear. And effectively more if you count extra for in-and-out of the car (and more fiddling with the interior in traffic jams). 100,000 miles in 200-mile journeys gives 500 in-and-outs, whereas 100,000 miles of 5-mile journeys gives 20,000 in-and-outs, with consequent extra wear on seats, door handles, etc.
 

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Elsewhere, there was some debate about miles vs hours; the theory being that 100,000 miles at 80 mph gives 1,250 hours of wear to the interior, whereas 100,000 miles at 40mph gives 2,500 hours of wear. And effectively more if you count extra for in-and-out of the car (and more fiddling with the interior in traffic jams). 100,000 miles in 200-mile journeys gives 500 in-and-outs, whereas 100,000 miles of 5-mile journeys gives 20,000 in-and-outs, with consequent extra wear on seats, door handles, etc.
I believe I started that point Mark! I agree re mechanicals. For interior wear and tear though I believe a lot has to do with care.
 

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Elsewhere, there was some debate about miles vs hours; the theory being that 100,000 miles at 80 mph gives 1,250 hours of wear to the interior, whereas 100,000 miles at 40mph gives 2,500 hours of wear. And effectively more if you count extra for in-and-out of the car (and more fiddling with the interior in traffic jams). 100,000 miles in 200-mile journeys gives 500 in-and-outs, whereas 100,000 miles of 5-mile journeys gives 20,000 in-and-outs, with consequent extra wear on seats, door handles, etc.

Interesting theory that makes a lot of sense, not thought about it like that. And then plus a young family that can gouge, scratch and pull away at every piece of trim :)

When I bought my jag at 2 years old it was amazing the variation between cars of similar mileages, the family wagon element!
 

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Interesting theory that makes a lot of sense, not thought about it like that. And then plus a young family that can gouge, scratch and pull away at every piece of trim :)

When I bought my jag at 2 years old it was amazing the variation between cars of similar mileages, the family wagon element!
Angus (or is that Don Angus), I would suggest the really interesting variations are on 2/3 year old school run LR products. Some Discos look 15 years old inside!! Without wishing to generalise or be sexist, why do so many wives I know insist on a tidy and clear house but their cars look like the aftermath of a pre teen party in them? I will admit that my office has endless piles of paper and magazines etc strewn around it but my cars are immaculate inside so there is a counter argument.....
 

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Angus (or is that Don Angus), I would suggest the really interesting variations are on 2/3 year old school run LR products. Some Discos look 15 years old inside!! Without wishing to generalise or be sexist, why do so many wives I know insist on a tidy and clear house but their cars look like the aftermath of a pre teen party in them? I will admit that my office has endless piles of paper and magazines etc strewn around it but my cars are immaculate inside so there is a counter argument.....
My wife never cleans her car, washes it, puts fuel in it, and every time we go out I have to drive.

In fact, I doubt she knows what car it is, except its colour.
 

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Angus (or is that Don Angus), I would suggest the really interesting variations are on 2/3 year old school run LR products. Some Discos look 15 years old inside!! Without wishing to generalise or be sexist, why do so many wives I know insist on a tidy and clear house but their cars look like the aftermath of a pre teen party in them? I will admit that my office has endless piles of paper and magazines etc strewn around it but my cars are immaculate inside so there is a counter argument.....
Haha yes exactly! I have a VW Polo courtesy car at the moment as Jag is in for service at a JLR service centre, my god it smells awful! A combination of wet dog and used wet wipes is not a nice smell!!

I keep the inside of my car tidy ish but not very good at keeping them washed. My wife’s car is like a mobile skip, it’s disgusting to be honest!

I also don’t like a clear desk/things to be too tidy somehow, feel better with stuff piled up a bit, maybe I’m trying to prove how busy I am or something sad like that :)
 
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Haha yes exactly! I have a VW Polo courtesy car at the moment as Jag is in for service at a JLR service centre, my god it smells awful! A combination of wet dog and used wet wipes is not a nice smell!!

I keep the inside of my car tidy ish but not very good at keeping them washed. My wife’s car is like a mobile skip, it’s disgusting to be honest!

I also don’t like a clear desk/things to be too tidy somehow, feel better with stuff piled up a bit, maybe I’m trying to prove how busy I am or something sad like that :)

There's lots of psychology around this. I suspect it's a reflection on nest building which you can watch any time you get on a plane or long rail journey (and to a lesser extent shorter journeys) There's a drive to make a space somehow 'ours' I suspect it's just a reflection that the ladies in question feel the house is theirs, but the car somehow isn't.

Mrs M commented when we stayed in Berlin (although I suspect she'd simply been biting her tongue on previous hotel stays) how she found it surprising that I was so 'fastidious' at home, and yet the moment I get into a hotel room I'm putting stuff on every surface.
For me, very simple. I've spent so much time in anonymous hotel rooms that I have an immediate drive to make it somehow 'mine'

Or it could all be BS <shrug>

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I thought the only people allowed in the back of quattroportes were elegant ladies, so they didn’t need to design that part for heavy use. :)
Didn't Silvio Berlusconi run a QP? I'm not sure his bunga bunga friends were all elegant.
 

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Elsewhere, there was some debate about miles vs hours; the theory being that 100,000 miles at 80 mph gives 1,250 hours of wear to the interior, whereas 100,000 miles at 40mph gives 2,500 hours of wear. And effectively more if you count extra for in-and-out of the car (and more fiddling with the interior in traffic jams). 100,000 miles in 200-mile journeys gives 500 in-and-outs, whereas 100,000 miles of 5-mile journeys gives 20,000 in-and-outs, with consequent extra wear on seats, door handles, etc.
You can't tell a lot from a video, but I don't think this Tesla S looks like it had done just short of 300k miles!!

But does sound like lots of long motorway journeys so maybe why. And then when they all pile on in the comments about requiring a new battery, it cost £7k and it's done 300k miles!! Not many ICE would get to that without significant overhaul, and expense, in its lifetime.

 
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You can't tell a lot from a video, but I don't think this Tesla S looks like it had done just short of 300k miles!!

But does sound like lots of long motorway journeys so maybe why. And then when they all pile on in the comments about requiring a new battery, it cost £7k and it's done 300k miles!! Not many ICE would get to that without significant overhaul, and expense, in its lifetime.

Watched it the other day and I thought so too. Electric makes a lot of sense for covering big miles. Model S has aluminum body too so shouldn't rust.
But as the video demonstrated it is a bit frustrating the digital nature of a car that seems to work fine on Monday and on Tuesday needs recovery track. Also suspicious that this happened right after warranty lapsed.
 
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2 cars I've spotted on ebay


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334987235584 - lovely exterior colour but awful interior choice.

This has an air of ...

"You're fired. Now hand over your company car keys. Where is the car?"
"Somewhere in a swamp in Scotland. Good luck."

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(But I'm sure it is really a great car, and actually just parked neatly in a lay-by for photo drama.)
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