Political Correctness

Corranga

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RobinL said:
So one of my stepsons was traditionally 'normal' and of he went to University in London. Fast forward 3 years and he returned to the north as vegetarian, bi-sexual and in debt to the tune of £50,000.

I'm not sure which part I find hardest to deal with but I suspect it's the student debt as he has taken the view that provided he earns below the threshold then it's not something he needs to worry about!

So 'Opinions'

we were having a 'discussion' and he accused me of not respecting his opinions. I replied that the day he bought either a coffee for his mum, or a beer for me would be the day I acknowledged he might have an opinion that I could consider.

He has reached 29 now and still hasn't qualified.

Does this make me a bad person?

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I see you tried by using quote marks around normal, but obviously you meant he left as a straight meat eating poor student. Obviously he actually left as a bisexual meat eating poor student though he perhaps didn’t realise or hadn’t come to terms with that. Sexuality isn’t a choice.

Vegetarianism is a choice, it’s not for me, but then I also see how it can be good for the planet and the person if done right.

The debt... that’s harder, but without knowing more it’s difficult to say much more. It might be different to my student loan, but if it’s the same, the amount they deduct when you do earn over the threshold is pittance anyway, so actually limiting your earnings is just stupidity. On the other hand, only 1/4 of all student loans are expected to be paid back. I’ve paid mine already, my wife never will, but then she only works 3 days a week and looks after the kid / house the other 2.

I’m not convinced you’re a bad person but you perhaps aren’t as good as you could be, of course that’s completely your choice, but you asked us to discuss :)
You say He’s 29 and still hasn’t qualified. I say perhaps you’re just letting the years go by waiting for him to be more like you, or your idea of who he should be . At some point you might just be that bitter old man who he could never live up to in his eyes. You have to decide what you want from your relationship with him and act on it before it’s too late and you regret it.
 
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Navcorr said:
She did Wogan too - figuratively speaking.
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Corranga said:
I see you tried by using quote marks around normal, but obviously you meant he left as a straight meat eating poor student. Obviously he actually left as a bisexual meat eating poor student though he perhaps didn’t realise or hadn’t come to terms with that. Sexuality isn’t a choice.

Vegetarianism is a choice, it’s not for me, but then I also see how it can be good for the planet and the person if done right.

The debt... that’s harder, but without knowing more it’s difficult to say much more. It might be different to my student loan, but if it’s the same, the amount they deduct when you do earn over the threshold is pittance anyway, so actually limiting your earnings is just stupidity. On the other hand, only 1/4 of all student loans are expected to be paid back. I’ve paid mine already, my wife never will, but then she only works 3 days a week and looks after the kid / house the other 2.

I’m not convinced you’re a bad person but you perhaps aren’t as good as you could be, of course that’s completely your choice, but you asked us to discuss :)
You say He’s 29 and still hasn’t qualified. I say perhaps you’re just letting the years go by waiting for him to be more like you, or your idea of who he should be . At some point you might just be that bitter old man who he could never live up to in his eyes. You have to decide what you want from your relationship with him and act on it before it’s too late and you regret it.
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Well, from a 1950's kids point of view... first of all if you behaved like that, you'd get a painful good hiding and another for speaking back to your elders..

Then sent to boarding school for 5 years to be taught a lesson! and mostly fed on cruel..

Kids nowadays have it far too easy!

Dave
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RobinL

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Not far off. Birkenhead School to be precise. I'm not sure if boarding school made me or broke me, likely both!
In neither expect nor need my stepkids to look up to me - provided they can look in a mirror every day and like the person looking back at them - it's a start.
The other boy ran off to the circus ( degree in performing arts - so I expect him to be permanently broke!) and no. 3 likes dressing up in uniform!
Which I suppose is acceptable as she is a nurse after all. So at least one of them will be some use to me in old age! :)

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RobinL said:
Not far off. Birkenhead School to be precise. I'm not sure if boarding school made me or broke me, likely both!
In neither expect nor need my stepkids to look up to me - provided they can look in a mirror every day and like the person looking back at them - it's a start.
The other boy ran off to the circus ( degree in performing arts - so I expect him to be permanently broke!) and no. 3 likes dressing up in uniform!
Which I suppose is acceptable as she is a nurse after all. So at least one of them will be some use to me in old age! :)

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Looking back all those years ago , the boot camp taught me how to behave with confidence.
For example, when suited how to speak the queen's English in certain situations, but be orr rite mate in others!

Dave
 
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Bebs said:
Hahaha.. what you need is a dedicated man room. No women allowed. I have one exception to that rule though, any woman through the door to my cigar room must lift up her top. No exceptions
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No, that's not nice mate... but a must to gain entry say, is to be competitive in Gran Turismo on the PlayStation!;)

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Scaf said:
Item in the paper today about the firm “Handymen” missing out on a grant because the name is sexist !
In my mind that is political correctness gone mad, just asked my wife what a “handyman” is and she said “someone who come round to do little jobs” she managed to get her head round the fact it doesn’t have to be a man with out being promoted.

I still make the odd faux pa using language that was perfectly acceptable once but is now deemed to be offensive. All I can do is apologise when it’s pointed out to me.
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Like many ‘PC gone mad’ stories, often in the Daily Mail, this one isn’t correct. The council have asked them for more information about whether they only employ men (given their name), before deciding whether to award the grant. Seems reasonable to me.

I like to see this stuff debated. I’m old enough to get grumpy about the modern world, but also old enough to remember the everyday racism, sexism and homophobia that we lived with up all around us until the ‘80s, and is still around. If you are a straight white bloke living in the UK (like me) it’s hard to appreciate just how depressing it is to be in a minority that is openly talked about as inferior all the time, and is expected to laugh it off. When I was younger I spent a short period living in another country on my own, where I was the ‘inferior’ minority, and it absolutely opened my eyes.

On the other hand, just because you say something that offends someone, doesn’t make you a bad person. You just said something bad - you can put it right in an instant with a genuine apology like Scaf does. But please don’t think this about banter, snowflakes and political correctness gone mad.
 
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