Play in rear wheels

[maser_4200]

So the 4200 facelift has gone through annual inspection and passed ... just.

It seems there is some play in the rear wheels - related to the arms - lower most likely. Not clear if the ball joint or bushing. Worse on driver side.

I posted on a noise in rear driver side arm before, and we got rid of it by spraying in some grease. It's already had the arms replaced about 15-20k miles ago (car is 40k miles)

Any thoughts? Is it two rear arms? Are they still hugely expensive? Thanks!

 

[safrane]

It will be the ball joint in the lower rear. Eurospares do a pattern part for £400 + VAT, or MD at £1400.

 

[conaero]

9/10 it's the lower wishbone stabiliser arm, the joint goes were it meets the hub and the rear wheels move and wobble under load and the car snakes.

Good news is you can replace them for upgraded rose joints, see the parts box on the home page for Craig Watermans solution.

 

[Gp79]

Check for play on this tie rod bearing.

If it is only here you can replace bearing with new - SKF GE15C for small cost, if the actual wishbone ball joints are worn it is a new wishbone required.

 

[maser_4200]

Wow, thanks for all for the info!

So, just to call it back:

1. Maserati OEM lower arms "lower lever" (x2) £2800 + installation and alignment (or maybe just the driver side)

2. Eurospares pattern part lower arms (x2) £800 + installation and alignment.
- Question: are these any good? Has anybody experience of them? What's the trade-off please?

3. If play is limited to the tie rod bearing, try a new bearing (press in?) SKF GE15C

4. I'm thinking the noise in rose/ball joint from before suggests the issue may be here.
- Question: I've looked, and it seems the part on this forum from Craig Waterman is the dust cover rather than the actual joint? Is that correct? http://www.sportsmaserati.com/classifieds_parts_listing.php?id=24

- Question: I have Xenons - there is nothing different about the arm for this is there?

Many thanks.

 

[conaero]

REPLY:
1. Sounds right
2. They are by all accounts made by the same manufacturer as the OEM Maserati ones OCAP so buy these
3. You can but it will fail again, if you are keeping the car spend the extra and fit CW's rose joint kit
4. Sorry, yes those are just the WB balljoint replacement boots, PM the same guy about the tie rod rose joint kit

Same are for all, there is a bracket you unbolt from your old arm and bolt to your new arms if they are not present, easy job.

 

[maser_4200]

Thanks - that's great!

I'll check out cost of the kit delivered (and estimate any extra assembly cost), then compare to the Eurospares pattern price. I'm glad to hear these pattern parts are working out OK, as they were just coming to market when I looked last.

REPLY:
1. Sounds right
2. They are by all accounts made by the same manufacturer as the OEM Maserati ones OCAP so buy these
3. You can but it will fail again, if you are keeping the car spend the extra and fit CW's rose joint kit
4. Sorry, yes those are just the WB balljoint replacement boots, PM the same guy about the tie rod rose joint kit

Same are for all, there is a bracket you unbolt from your old arm and bolt to your new arms if they are not present, easy job.

 

[karatemaserati]

There is also larini tie rods if you go on the site... come in at 200 quid a pair

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[maser_4200]

Thanks - good to have another option.

There is also larini tie rods if you go on the site... come in at 200 quid a pair

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[FIFTY]

The Larini ones are from Formula Dynamics, from what I heard Craig Waterman sold his design to FD. So it's the same option really. Also Larini prices are ex-VAT

Get them direct from Craig, he's a great guy

 

[davy83]

Note also if you are in here the rubber boot around the main ball joint, is very poor and there is some one on here who makes much better ball joint covers, and i fitted these on all of mine as the main failure mode of the ball joints is the cover perishes and cracks and dirt gets in. The one in the picture is the original ball joint cover and is pretty rubbish.

Check for play on this tie rod bearing.

If it is only here you can replace bearing with new - SKF GE15C for small cost, if the actual wishbone ball joints are worn it is a new wishbone required.

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[CatmanV2]

Note also if you are in here the rubber boot around the main ball joint, is very poor and there is some one on here who makes much better ball joint covers, and i fitted these on all of mine as the main failure mode of the ball joints is the cover perishes and cracks and dirt gets in. The one in the picture is the original ball joint cover and is pretty rubbish.

That would be Craig, again, I think

C

 

[maser_4200]

I ended up getting the pattern part arms (rear lower levers) in the end. They def seem to be from the same casting as the OE ones, so nice saving.

Al in all, the Maserati design seems pretty poor in terms of tracking adjustment

All the other gaiters seem OK, so will stick with stock items.

Photos are from another car, but you get the idea. Single nut to adjust tracking on one side.

If there is future wear on the tie rods, I'll get CW's upgrade.

 

[Gp79]

I ended up getting the pattern part arms (rear lower levers) in the end. They def seem to be from the same casting as the OE ones, so nice saving.

Al in all, the Maserati design seems pretty poor in terms of tracking adjustment

All the other gaiters seem OK, so will stick with stock items.

Photos are from another car, but you get the idea. Single nut to adjust tracking on one side.

If there is future wear on the tie rods, I'll get CW's upgrade.View attachment 45089View attachment 45090View attachment 45091

Glad it's sorted.

I know not your car, but the car in the pics has no rear anti roll / sway bar or drop links. Can't be right??

 

[maser_4200]

Glad it's sorted.

I know not your car, but the car in the pics has no rear anti roll / sway bar or drop links. Can't be right??

It's being worked on at the moment - up on lift