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Parisien

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Clampng on the up here....firstly untaxed cars...now broader rights to clamp.............ie illegally parked

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2b1ask1

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Local authorities, Police, DVLA, VOSA & HM Customs can all clamp you and tow you but in England and Wales now private companies cannot; you cannot now for example block someone into your own land if they park there, it is illegal to immobilise or remove a vehicle on private land. Likewise private companies cannot fine you they can send you a speculative invoice dressed up to look like a parking ticket but is called a parking charge... Best advice is never pay them, they are chancers and con artists. http://www.notomob.co.uk
 

2b1ask1

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Meant to say; those cars were parked illegally on the highway so legitimately clamped but I think the owners could afford it!
 

rossyl

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Local authorities, Police, DVLA, VOSA & HM Customs can all clamp you and tow you...[/URL]

Precisely.

Dem - the important point being that local authorities can clamp you (they are the most likely to do so for parking violations)

It is private companies who cannot.
 

hodroyd

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Private Parking companies can only legally charge you for the period that you have parked for, in such as a pay & display. If they issue a parking charge (penalty) for an overstay, it has to be an amount which would be the equivalent of a valid period parking fee, no more. They will try and con you in to thinking they can charge you an excessive fee...they legally can't, so don't pay it, ask for an invoice for the period of the overstay at the normal parking rate.
 

2b1ask1

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It's a bit more complex than that Rob but firstly they have to have written authority of the land owner (typically supermarkets and the like are on rented sites so they are not the land owner), they then have to provide a genuine pre-estimate of loss which they base their charge upon. This latter point is the one that is tripping them all up at the moment. They cannot include their imagined 'fine' element in this pre-estimate so if the implied contract (the sign you drove past) is correct and you get two hours free, you overstay by 20 minutes, the loss by them is £0.00 eerm... They have to pay DVLA to recover the registered keeper's details to be able to send their speculative invoice; if you get one don't admit to who was driving and they have nothing to work on, they will send ever threatening red letters that will cost them each time but they will soon give up. They work on numbers, if they send out 100 letters asking for £80 reduced to £40 if you pay within 14 days and 20 fools pay them they are quids in by a country mile, another 10-15 will pay on the next red letter and so on... They are on very dodgy ground indeed and eventually they will get their comeuppance but in the meantime don't ever pay them and don't let your poor old mum pay them either, they are nothing but blood sucking leeches.

Local authorities are in the firing line at the moment and Eric Pickles is gunning for them, in particular their over zealous use of $camera cars and CCTV for parking and bus lanes etc.
 

hodroyd

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Nothing that complicated about con' men, just don't get drawn in by the bull and defo' don't pay..!!