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[mowlas]

Does she say something after she chuckles- can’t make it out ?

She looked like she was talking to another reporter holding a mic. All I could make out was “idas” which has no meaning in her language.

All I can say to Putler is don’t start something you can’t Finnish!

 

[BJL]

the very best Missile defence systems arriving from the states in two weeks, more from us as well. Nearly all the friendly Nuclear Subs are now within strike range and Russian soldiers so demoralised they are leaving fully equipped kit behind.
Next move should be;
Blow the rest of the bridge to smithereens
Sink the capital ships based in Sebastopol
Offer amnesty and reward for front line troops surrender
$1,000,000,000 bounty together with US citizenship to whoever puts Putin's head on a spike.
That should do it.

 

[UlstermanAbroad]

the very best Missile defence systems arriving from the states in two weeks, more from us as well. Nearly all the friendly Nuclear Subs are now within strike range and Russian soldiers so demoralised they are leaving fully equipped kit behind.
Next move should be;
Blow the rest of the bridge to smithereens
Sink the capital ships based in Sebastopol
Offer amnesty and reward for front line troops surrender
$1,000,000,000 bounty together with US citizenship to whoever puts Putin's head on a spike.
That should do it.

What you've suggested is actually very appropriate and for a reason that you might've forgotten.
The Russians put a price on the heads of each of our soldiers in Afghanistan. Specifically Putin did.
It'd be nice to see how he likes a dose of his own methods.

 

[D Walker]

Hot of the press. Ukrainians have launched a rather sizeable offensive in Luhansk.
Target Svatova and then encircle and cut off Russians. Makes sense before any of those mobilizees arrive.

 

[Wack61]

I can't believe how effective the manpad is, they don't need armour, 4 guys in a Toyota pickup can take out cruise missiles, jets and tanks then disappear

If I was Russian holding a rusty AK47 I'd be ******* off sharpish too

 

[midlifecrisis]

I can't believe how effective the manpad is, they don't need armour, 4 guys in a Toyota pickup can take out cruise missiles, jets and tanks then disappear

If I was Russian holding a rusty AK47 I'd be *** off sharpish too

Toyota? This isn't Somalia...the Ukrainians have taste, It'll be a Merc G-wagen...

 

[Wattie]

The war is certainly not as one sided as is portrayed. Most people know that the Russians gave hundreds of billions of funding to Ukraine only for the Ukrainian Government to default on their repayments.
And then cosy up to NATO and the EU.

Wars have been started for less.

Russian tactics however are abhorrent, targeting civilians and their war crimes cannot go unpunished.

Remind me how many civilians the US (NATO) killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia etc?

Were Blair and Bush tried for the fake Iraq war…. He wasn’t even involved in 911!

They’re sending weapons to Saudi so they can kill civilians in Yemen aren’t they….how many have died there?

They ALL went unpunished didn’t they?
Google search “US airstrike kills civilians”

Are we playing by the Red Bull handbook here…..we can do this and get away with it but you……

Ridiculous.

 

[Wattie]

Wattie. I doubt that merely holding a contrary opinion would get you banned. Nor would I wish it.

We're not talking about Covid in this thread. The mods are all over thread drift of late. So let's not go there.
And not because you're not talking nonsense, because you are. But, that's okay. I suspect we all do that at some point or another.

If you believe Putin will stop at Ukraine, if Ukraine was just to roll over and quit, you'd be mistaken.
Ask the Baltic States. Putin firmly believes that they should never have left / been allowed to leave the Warsaw Pact.
The 'Baltics' are convinced that Russia will invade there, once its regrouped after conquering Ukraine. Why? Because they still have significant Russian populations that chose to stay, despite the animosity of their host nations.
We agree. Which is partly why we've had an Army and RAF presence there, along with other NATO countries.
Putin probably wants to reunite Kaliningrad to Russia. There's only one way into Kaliningrad. Through NATO.

Finland and to a lesser extent Sweden wouldn't have suddenly pleaded for a fast track to NATO membership, if their intelligence services weren't advising their governments to be concerned. Remember, these countries hadn't felt the need to join NATO during the depths of the Cold War. What's changed, d'you think?

Unfortunately Wattie, the historical precedents are relevant and recent enough, to teach us that above all else Putin fears a repeat of his formative years. Scrabbling for scraps of food, in a city ravaged by a Western army. Which is why Putin feels an overwhelming need for a return to the Cold War buffer of Warsaw Pact states sitting between Russia and NATO. Ukraine is his opening move. Belarus would be next. Then all he'd need is the Baltics. Plus Moldova. Salami slicing is how best to achieve it. Push West but only do it incrementally. So, Western political leaders always seek a political compromise, before invoking the NATO Charter of an attack on one is an attack on all.

There is nothing logical in Putin's mindset. Unless you were that young boy in Leningrad in the late 1940's and had seen every part of your country West of the Ural mountains completely destroyed. And you wanted your legacy to be a security blanket of client states in the West. Willing or not.

Like it or not. Our choice is binary. Support Ukraine down to the last Ukrainian now, or be ready to be on the front line again in the very near future.

Thanks for the sentiment and as you say we won’t go there.

 

[GeoffCapes]

Were Blair and Bush tried for the fake Iraq war…. He wasn’t even involved in 911!

They should certainly both be up on war crimes charges. The both knew there wasn't any WMD's but call the whole debacle 'justifiable'!

 

[UlstermanAbroad]

On the face of it. I'm guessing that anything that threatens the flow of oil westwards, or looks like becoming a socialist client state of Russia, is regarded as fair game by the U.S. In the case of Iraq, I'd guess that the Saudis were happy that they no longer had the threat of Saddam coming south for his holidays. Which enables them to effectively (?) balance the threat posed by the Iranians. Ask yourself why the Iranians, rich in oil as they are, haven't blocked the Straits of Hormuz lately? One reason is the amount of American forces sitting in Saudi and elsewhere along the western side of the Persian Gulf. Pure guess - equal to two or three carrier battle groups ITO offensive fire power.
Plus there's usually a CVN battle group lurking just outside the Persian Gulf.
Wattie, like you I still feel anger about the blatant lies told by the US and UK governments, prior to getting involved with Iraq and Afghanistan and the fact that nobody in either US or UK cabinets have been tried. I suspect that both Bush and Bliar need to be very careful about the countries they fly to and those they overfly. For the rest of their lives.
Nobody has clean hands. You, me nor anyone else.
All we can really hope for, is that cool heads prevail.

 

[Wattie]

On the face of it. I'm guessing that anything that threatens the flow of oil westwards, or looks like becoming a socialist client state of Russia, is regarded as fair game by the U.S. In the case of Iraq, I'd guess that the Saudis were happy that they no longer had the threat of Saddam coming south for his holidays. Which enables them to effectively (?) balance the threat posed by the Iranians. Ask yourself why the Iranians, rich in oil as they are, haven't blocked the Straits of Hormuz lately? One reason is the amount of American forces sitting in Saudi and elsewhere along the western side of the Persian Gulf. Pure guess - equal to two or three carrier battle groups ITO offensive fire power.
Plus there's usually a CVN battle group lurking just outside the Persian Gulf.
Wattie, like you I still feel anger about the blatant lies told by the US and UK governments, prior to getting involved with Iraq and Afghanistan and the fact that nobody in either US or UK cabinets have been tried. I suspect that both Bush and Bliar need to be very careful about the countries they fly to and those they overfly. For the rest of their lives.
Nobody has clean hands. You, me nor anyone else.
All we can really hope for, is that cool heads prevail.

With a broken financial system (obvious) I fear those in charge are trying (they’ve said it!) to use this as an attempt (along with Covid/ green energy sh1t ) to reset everything.

 

[UlstermanAbroad]

With a broken financial system (obvious) I fear those in charge are trying (they’ve said it!) to use this as an attempt (along with Covid/ green energy sh1t ) to reset everything.

At this point Wattie. I've given up trying to figure out what Truss & Co are attempting to do.
If you believe the anecdotes floating around. She alienates everyone that questions her.
I watched her 'debate' with Starmer at PMQs and both her words and her facial expressions were
not Prime Ministerial in the least. The rest of the cabinet are no/little better.

We need a reset alright. A political reset! Urgently. Truss must be on borrowed time.

 

[midlifecrisis]

At this point Wattie. I've given up trying to figure out what Truss & Co are attempting to do.
If you believe the anecdotes floating around. She alienates everyone that questions her.
I watched her 'debate' with Starmer at PMQs and both her words and her facial expressions were
not Prime Ministerial in the least. The rest of the cabinet are no/little better.

We need a reset alright. A political reset! Urgently. Truss must be on borrowed time.

James Cleverly has already defended her by saying that another change of PM is too early.

Which is like the football clubs chairman saying 'we have every confidence in the manager '

 

[Nibby]

At this point Wattie. I've given up trying to figure out what Truss & Co are attempting to do.
If you believe the anecdotes floating around. She alienates everyone that questions her.
I watched her 'debate' with Starmer at PMQs and both her words and her facial expressions were
not Prime Ministerial in the least. The rest of the cabinet are no/little better.

We need a reset alright. A political reset! Urgently. Truss must be on borrowed time.

I hear what you’re saying UA but what’s the alternative? Starmer and Bet Lynch?

 

[Guy]

and there lies the problem! There is no alternative. Look at what the Americans had to choose between the last couple of elections?! Does anyone know a person who is smart, trustworthy, successful and declared a desire to move into politics! Anyone I know who fits that bill would never consider it!
Those that could make a difference won't and those that want to be politicians should be excluded.....

 

[UlstermanAbroad]

I hear what you’re saying UA but what’s the alternative? Starmer and Bet Lynch?

UA? Try Mike
Yes, it does appear to be Slim Pickens. In fact. If ole Slim hadn't been dead for forty years,
I'd be inclined to give him a go on the basis that he couldn't do any worse and the *****
and giggles would be endless. Imagine PMQs. For those of you culture voids who don't know
who I'm referring to. Slim Pickens starred as Major 'King' Kong in Dr. Strangelove

Okay, so we don't have a Slim Pickens. Sadly. We do however, have a Ben Wallace.
I suspect that he had the ability to make a much better fist of it than any recent
Prime Minister, though that's not setting the bar high at all.
Coincidentally, before he was an actor, Slim Pickens was a rodeo rider, steer wrestler
and highly paid rodeo clown, from age twelve.

 

[midlifecrisis]

We got rid of the rodeo clown, now we have the poor man's Thatcher...which is ironic as she's only for the rich.

 

[Delmonte]

This’ll probably get me banned.

If you believe this war is as one sided as it’s portrayed you’re probably the sort of person that has had 3-4 vaccines, but still caught Covid at least a couple of times and still felt sh1t, You probably know others in the same boat.

For some reason you still feel the vax saved your life and Incredibly you still feel it’s necessary to q up for the next booster that won’t work either.

Some of u who had 1 or 2 might be beginning to wake up to the Bs.

A minority of us can see thru the Bs that’s everywhere including this war.

No ban so far.

 

[D Walker]

No ban so far.

Stone him instead.

 

[Oneball]

Stone him instead.

Not until I blow the whistle.