London congestion charge rises again

[rockits]

Public transport makes getting in and out very easy. It has a better public transport than any other UK city.

Also, "lots" of restaurants? My dear boy, there's barely enough to count on one hand...

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I agree the many positives you like that many will like. Many will many won't but that is personal preference. My wife is a bigger fan of London than I am.

It has a better public transport than any other UK city?

Does it? Are we talking about a different city. Maybe when commuting from London to London on short inside London journeys. From outside in it isn't great.

I commuted into London for one year only maybe 20 years ago. It was not a pleasurable experience, wasn't cheap and so many delays with overcrowded trains. Also not very clean.

Unless of course it has got much better in the last 20 years. I can go door to door home to customer site quicker in a car that I can by public transport. Also often at less cost too.

 

[Delmonte]

It's amazing how angry people are getting about something they never (or very rarely) do.

Can only speak for myself, but it’s contempt rather than anger. I’d actually completely forgotten there was a charge, ive refused to drive in London ever since I got done 100 notes for half of my car spending 30 seconds in a box junction years ago (not an exaggeration). So I’ve never paid the charge, but feel for those that have to.
As others have said, London is now a playground for the privileged, but they do need their serfs, and its them I feel for.

 

[Oneball]

Can only speak for myself, but it’s contempt rather than anger. I’d actually completely forgotten there was a charge, ive refused to drive in London ever since I got done 100 notes for half of my car spending 30 seconds in a box junction years ago (not an exaggeration). So I’ve never paid the charge, but feel for those that have to.
As others have said, London is now a playground for the privileged, but they do need their serfs, and its them I feel for.

The Greater London Council or whatever it’s called now kept it very quiet that they suspended the charge during lockdown

 

[rockits]

Another point that the congestion charge doesn't address is EV's. Or worse still Hybrid's and I have one that I use to travel to customer sites in London.

I don't pay the Congestion Charge or the ULEZ charge. However my car still creates traffic and due to poor charging infrastructure creates emmisions too. I can only travel into London on electric and the return journey is on Petrol as I can't charge it at the London end.

So I don't pay the charge, create congestion and emmisions. Doesn't sound like a sound plan to me.

 

[Delmonte]

Public transport makes getting in and out very easy. It has a better public transport than any other UK city.

Also, "lots" of restaurants? My dear boy, there's barely enough to count on one hand...

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Plenty of places where you can pay 48 quid for a starter of Brussels sprouts sauteeed in Kestrel lager (or something). Not one decent chippy though.....

 

[CatmanV2]

Plenty of places where you can pay 48 quid for a starter of Brussels sprouts sauteeed in Kestrel lager (or something). Not one decent chippy though.....

Loads of decent chippys in London!

C

 

[Wack61]

Liverpool is great as well. Harrogate I love. Ripon is nice.

C

One of the nicest towns I've ever been to is Beverley , stayed in a really nice B&B in Cottingham ,the toll cottage , just happened to drop lucky on a music festival so got to see steve harley and cockney rebel

Durham is also very nice

 

[alfatwo]

Her in doors daughter was on Clapham Common this afternoon, she said it was terrible..
Half of London was on there, no distancing, nothing
Its as if they don't give a sh*te down there
Give it 3 weeks and they'll be dropping like fly's again!

Dave

 

[Wack61]

Thing is, as demonstrated by the uproar, people are deterred. That's the aim.

I'm really not bothered by it, despite it potentially effecting me.

Going up from £12 to £15, isn't much.

London is always very busy, so it applying on the weekends makes as much sense as it applying during the week.

As for complaining about the price of parking, that ship sailed decades ago when garages started to be worth serious money.

I didn't complain about the price of parking , just pointed out a mornings work in London costs £56 before you've left home , anywhere else in the UK it wouldn't cost you anything but parking.

 

[alfatwo]

Best to stop moaning and move out then! I escaped to the shires in 96 and never looked back.

Dave

 

[CatmanV2]

Her in doors daughter was on Clapham Common this afternoon, she said it was terrible..
Half of London was on there, no distancing, nothing
Its as if they don't give a sh*te down there
Give it 3 weeks and they'll be dropping like fly's again!

Dave

Used to work just of the Common. It was lovely

C

 

[midlifecrisis]

Ju

Public transport makes getting in and out very easy. It has a better public transport than any other UK city.

Also, "lots" of restaurants? My dear boy, there's barely enough to count on one hand...

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Just because bibendum rocked up at some poncey TV stars cafe doesn't make it good. You stick to your £100 for beef medallions served in goats ****, and I'll go to the curry mile.

 

[rivarama]

It becomes a problem when you have to do jobs for customers in London and have to drive as you have so much kit onboard but find it hard to find parking. Then have to trolley your kit to the customer. I'm getting too old for those shenanigans

I suspect soon many trades won't want to do any work in London or if they do it will be chuffin expensive.

Well - isn’t it as simple as passing this additional cost to their London customers? Part of the high cost of living in the city I suppose

 

[rivarama]

As others have said, London is now a playground for the privileged, but they do need their serfs, and its them I feel for.

If the serfs are smart enough, they will Pass this extra £3 charge onto their rich clients. Problem solved, surely.

 

[Oneball]

Used to work just of the Common. It was lovely

C

Did you come across George Michael?

 

[CatmanV2]

Did you come across George Michael?

I was never charged.

C

 

[Vampyrebat]

Did you come across George Michael?

Come across George Michael...........Or........... Cum across George Michael??!!

 

[midlifecrisis]

I was never charged.

C

Just careless whispers?

 

[Ebenezer]

Obviously you have been loved
Eb

 

[Delmonte]

If the serfs are smart enough, they will Pass this extra £3 charge onto their rich clients. Problem solved, surely.

I was rather referring to the ones that have to live there, that make the city actually work as a functioning city. Earning **** wages and paying far too much for everything there, particularly rent.
Out of town tradesmen obvs charge more for going there to work; theres demand enough for Northerners to go there to do a job, charge double normal rates plus fuel and board while they work there; but I know who a few who've given up going there for jobs, just too much hassle, time away from home, and time lost travelling to even make it worth it for the London rates